Upload: Patriot Dawn: Battle Diagrams
These are the maps/diagrams that I have created (mentioned in THIS POST). I will add them to the hardcopy and kindle books and republish them. I’ll post when that is completed.
Patrol Base Contact:
Harrisonburg:
Apache FOB Raid:
Battle of Zulu-Delta:
Comments/Feedback welcome.
Live Hard.
Die Free.
Max









Is that an actual Apache base aerial photo?
No. It’s Bridgewater Airpark. Since taken over by Regime forces.
Looking that air park up on google earth, that looks like a bitch to attack and can see why it’d need to be a very violent and surprise attack. I know we’re not debating attack plans and stuff but I do have 1 question however, is that river adjacent to it navigable?
Looking at it with Google Street View it looks like an objective much more suited for a mechanized attack. There is so much flat open ground to cover you’d need every bit of that support by fire and lots of indirect fire to cover that ground on foot without being cut to ribbons.
On the other hand, having played OPFOR at Ft. Irwin for a couple weeks I can speak to the lack of readiness among headquarters and aviation types. We literally walked right into a tank brigade TOC and “killed” nearly everyone and still got out of there unscathed. Another group of us did the same thing at a FAARP. Took out most of the pilots and the UH-60s parked on the ground nearby. After years of operating out of giant FOBs I can only imagine it’s worse than it was back in the ’90s when we did this.
Didn’t read the book yet, did you Chuck?
It is a ‘mechanized’ attack.
D’oh! Busted…
Suggestion: read it, and then let me know how you would have done it.
Still waiting on Former Sapper and his amphibious attack. I don’t know if the river is navigable. I’ll get my kayak and drive down there…
Reading assignments and homework? Well, at least it’s a hell of lot more interesting than algebra.
Just gpt home and read this and visualized the comments. Kayak Assault squad! Tip of the oar!!!!
http://24.media.tumblr.com/db3179378bdbb6c3efd56c8fe7ec95af/tumblr_mv1c388b8U1s0hmf1o1_500.jpg
Let me see what I can concoct. Looking further down stream there’s a sewage treatment plant by Route 81, it’s safe to assume that, at least in part that the river is navigable. I looked it up shortly before going to sleep last night, this particular part is called South Fork of the Shenandoah River and at least the vast majority seems to be navigable.
To be quite honest the mechanised assault is the better option of the 2 as opposed to amphibious because of the wide open spaces, limited capacity of kayaks and jon boats to carry the heavy weapons needed to ensure the job is done the first time. It’d also be safe to assume that security forces would at the minimum block the river with traps and the maximum would be an ambush. It also makes your bug out plan predictable.
Your diagrams closely resemble the visualizations I had in my had. I think that’s a credit to how well the battles were described.
I’m particularly fascinated by the Zulu Delta patrol base. Would you be willing to another diagram or two showing how the foxholes and central HQ are connected?
So this is probably a dumb question. The description of that battle indicates that the Regime forces showed a lot of confusion when it came to actually locating the foxholes. Is a properly camouflaged foxhole really that difficult to see, even with rifle fire coming out of it? Can you elaborate on the camouflage, possible some photos of proper examples? You can chalk up that question to ignorance, Hollywood, and false expectations. Thanks.
A correctly camouflage fox hole or fighting position is quite hard to see, especially when time and care have been taken in its construction (which we can assume would be the case of ZD with a highly experienced infantry officer in command). Ideally at the minimum you’re looking to be camouflaged at around a distance of 100ft or so to the Mk1 eyeball.
If you imagine that we can break positional camouflage up in 2 categories; 1. hiding and screens (this is your camouflage nets, adjustable height poles, your poncho and snow screens etc) 2. Finishing touches (this is your gravel, soil, sand or other location appropriate material, strips of fabric such as hessian and leather and field expedient paints).
Using natural points of camouflage you’re looking to supplement what is naturally there so with this in mind when constructing and maintaining your position’s camouflage more often than not you’ll get it right first time and do so effectively (small adjustments may be needed and maintained over time)
I second the photos thing about bunkers with and without actual firing from them taking place.
FS,
Thanks for the commentary on that. After googling “camouflaged foxhole” some decent examples came up. Most of the photos are up close and you can obviously see they are foxhole, but I can see that out to 100 ft or so it would easily disappear.
I wonder if Max would be willing to take you on as a “sapper instructor”? Seems like that would be good knowledge disseminate.
If he can get a green card….
I’d love to see the INS Agent’s face when they see what my specialty is that would make me eligible for the green card “I’m going to teach people how to make life a nightmare for security forces” sounds pretty good!
All jokes aside migrating to the states is something my wife and I have spoken about but in the absence of something that makes either one of us exceptional for the green card it isn’t happening. What would be great would be either a 12B, 12Z or an 18C making themselves known to Max to get something started up and see how it all goes, I feel as though there is demand for such a capability.
Failing that people are very welcome to email me and I’ll answer with the same caveats as last time.
LOL Chuck you just gave me a flashback. I was with the 7th ID(L), this is in 91 and I was a lil ol PFC in a scout plt. We were at Hunter Leggit, wearing all the MILES and being followed by Observer Officer LEG (LOL). Our objective was to recon an OPFOR ADA site, with a Vulcan, and a call for fire mission. But our team daddy was a former member of the 75th (He got kicked out for a DUI and resisting arrest). Anyway we started the recon around 2330 and were watching through our nods giving SALUTE reports hourly. There were a total of 8 soldiers in their fart sacks.
No security at all,everyone was asleep they even had a fire left unattended. Sgt. Schick was so pissed at the lack of discipline that at the designated stand to, instead of calling the Fire Mission in. He told the Observer that we were going to capture the site, man that was easy we actually “walked” in surrounded them with our squad and started waking them up with our boots ha. Their Batt. CO. was so pissed, he tried having Sgt. Schick and us brought up on Article 15’s for disobeying orders. So our CO put us in for ARCOMMS,(I called that a WalMart award)which we got.
We also got sent to various schools till the heat cooled down. Since I was already Airborne and Air Assault I got to go to Pathfinder School and most the other guys volunteered to go to Airborne school the rest went to AA school, Ol Sgt Schick got lucky and went to the army dive school, haha he joking said he was starting a Dive team at HHC like in the 75th. Oh and he was the only man at PT, who wore his black shorts, The man was a beast. Man those were the days!
Thanks Chuck for the memory jog!
Well shit sorry for forgetting to double space between paragraphs. Im a grunt not a writer! Ill knock out 50 as soon as Im done typing!
I actually live a mile or two from the Bridgewater airport. There are several ways to approach the Airport on foot. The river is one. There is flat ground around the airport. There are not many ways out with a car. I have the book, but have only read the first few pages. I thought it was great that my neck of the woods was used as the location for the book.
Although I did a recce on Harrisonburg, I did the Apache FOB attack by google earth. It is planned on the location for real, as if a FOB had been built there as described. I understand that, from my latest viewing for the diagrams, airport road at the ambush site may have been rerouted/improved, so the dog leg to the ambush site may not be there any more. So work it off the map provided, with artistic license.
Per the “kayak assault squad” (lol), and the picture Skittles referenced;
In certain conditions, I would venture to say this is not a terrible idea- I recently had some time in one, and there seems to be some serious potential there.
For one, kayaks are a hell of a lot lighter- easier to carry, faster and very maneuverable, and seem to draw less water than a canoe- so you can (potentially) get in some really tight/shallow places.
I would venture that in places with a lot of shallow watery terrain, it might be a good way to move around with “stuff” and still keep a pretty low noise/visual signature.
Obviously, heavy weapons probably a no-go, but “stuff” as in it would be better than incessantly wading through water with all your gear if you were in that sort of terrain.
Meanwhile, I’m going to print the diagrams out and stick then in my book.
Thanks Max!
Buy another copy: one click on amazon and a few debtbux well spent is far more convenient than printing and sticking
Cue massive WWII thru contemporary anecdotes of kayak use by commando raiders….
http://pdf.textfiles.com/manuals/MILITARY/united_states_army_fm_7-93%20-%203_october_1995.pdf
Your attention is invited to Ch. 6, Section 1. ;)
The use of various types of watercraft in warfare, particularly by insurgents is well documented. Those that live near rivers, swamps, and other marine environments should consider this. If you have no experience consider some of the useful hobbies that could help later, just make sure your tactical skills are prioritized.
I love swamps for the inhospitable environments they make for most people. Plenty of water, food, and resources for those with proper experience and skills.
My rebuilt 40+ year old Folbot can carry over 700 lbs safely. It is designed for two people, but can be used by one with experience.
Folbot picture: http://www.folbotforum.com/download/file.php?id=4029&sid=bfd3e01f621562dcd36122d45fd2a7a2
They come in foldable variations that can be man portable. There are many other brands and options available.
Here is a picture that should fuel the imagination of some possibilities:
http://www.mosquitohammock.com/images/picJungleHammockKayak1small.jpg
Just food for thought, not necessarily for above mission.
Max-
First anecdote: Check out Max Manus and his Norgie commandos during WWII. They used kayaks/canoes to attach limpets to Nazi transports and sank numerous ships.
There is another anecdote knocking in my brain – something about Aussies going long range into the pacific in kayaks. Something also, maybe the same, like pebble shore raiders or something…?
It’s that CRS thing again…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z_Special_Unit
You could get reasonable sized weapons in such as M249 and M4s no problem, you could even fit a small 60mm commando mortar in if you was going that way but as I said, if we are to assume a half way competent security force then they’d have an LP/OP at some point in the stream with ambushes maybe further up.
It’d be ok I guess to paddle a mile or 2 out and tab in the rest of the way by which point you’ll wonder why you didn’t just bring the vehicles in the first place and have the additional benefit of a handful of ma deuce and heavy mortars.
Now if we’re attacking on an estuary or coast (which is not the case here) of some kind… then kayaks come in to themselves in my opinion.
Maybe at a future date we could hold a round table on a site picked by Max and see what we can do…
That’s a good blog idea. Pick a location, scenario, enemy forces, then readers submit schematics of how your concept of ops would run….