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    • #90416
      Joe (G.W.N.S.)
      Moderator

        Part of the “mindset” is making things last longer, the thought that a particular item maybe the last you see of it without making it yourself.

        For example:

        Liquid soaps and shampoos. Get some of the foaming dispensers, but do not buy the foaming refills. If you take regular liquid soap refills and fill foaming dispenser halfway with standard liquid then top off with water you will double the life of product and cut cost in half. (you can dilute even more to find what is acceptable to you)

        Note: Most foaming soap refills cost the same as regular refills for a given size.

        This option is applicable for shampoo, conditioner, body wash, hand soap, dish soap, etc…

        Buy things you use regularly in bulk to save money, just verify the math since not all bulk packaged items are truly values.

        Sales and clearance items can lead to big savings.

        For example despite the government lies that there isn’t a inflation problem. The canned goods I bought in bulk on sale last year is providing significant savings compared to current prices.

        By having items in stock at home it allows you to only purchase those items when on sale.

        The .22 ammo I purchased in bulk 15 years ago is providing for my current youth training. Baring drastic changes in availability I will be discontinuing .22 ammo from my inventory once expended.

        My stockpile of 9mm has saved me a ridicules amount of money in training costs.

        There are very few items I will buy if it’s not on sale.

        Damaged packaging, I bought a air conditioner at Lowes for 50% off because packaging had a dent, gash, and water stains. There wasn’t even a scratch on unit.

        More to follow.

      • #90417
        Joe (G.W.N.S.)
        Moderator

          Here is a something that will save a lot of money and will last generations.

          Switch from disposable razors to a straight razor.

          I’ve been using a straight razor for over twenty years and it will pay for itself in less than a year compared to disposables. My great-grandchildren will still be able to use it!

          Learn to sharpen your own scissors and buy quality ones.

          This may come in handy.

        • #90418
          Mike Q
          Participant

            This is something I just figured out this year. A single bar of soap lasted my wife and I 4 months before it ran out. We shower every day. Using those fluffy luffa’s uses a lot less soap than wash rags. Silly stupid, but $15 of soap will last my family for 2 years…

          • #90419
            Joe (G.W.N.S.)
            Moderator

              Silly stupid, but $15 of soap will last my family for 2 years…

              Exactly! :good:

            • #90420
              Joe (G.W.N.S.)
              Moderator

                Bicycle use?

                What trips can you make with a bicycle?

                Save money and increase fitness!

                I use a bicycle for over 50% of my errands.

                I even use a trailer when needed.

              • #90421
                Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                Moderator

                  Can’t afford a cabin in the woods?

                  Go old school!

                  Shanty Shacks and Boats may be the answer.


                  Build with free materials such as pallets.

                  The metal roof and metal siding on my cabin was from commercial chicken coop metal roofs built in the early 1960’s. Most of the lumber was from pallets.


                  Shantyboats don’t have to stay on the water, maybe you just use the water to get it where you are going.


                  Of course these kids don’t seem to think being on the water is that bad either.

                • #90422
                  Robert
                  Participant

                    Bar soap like Ivory stores well over long term. Worse we have had just had to have the paper packaging “shaved” off closely with a butter knife before using. The soap hardened a bit over time. But most soap is probably packaged before it’s cured completely. We have rotated most of our late 90’s, early 2000’s soap now.

                    LTS of liquid soap is haphazard as the thin plastic in the container usually breaks down before the soap itself does. Makes a mess when it happens.

                    Multivitamins last a good while in storage and I’ve taken them after they had the colored spots appear on them, though I’m sure their effectiveness was greatly reduced.

                    Cipro from 2001 was still beating infections as of about 3 years ago when we ran out of it from that time period.

                    As recently as a few years ago we were rotating rice from 1991 that was good to go. I think current bucket in rotation is from 1997 now. Properly packaged with mylar and o2 absorbers you can expect 30 years IME. I think we paid $14. per 100 lbs. in 91 and it was over $16. per FIFTY lbs. when we rotated it.

                    Preparing can make financial cents as well as general SENSE :)

                  • #90423
                    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                    Moderator

                      Preparing can make financial cents as well as general SENSE :)

                      Great points and examples.

                      Many products will need to be repackaged if storing long term, think about Roberts comments.

                    • #90424
                      Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                      Moderator

                        Clothing and Footwear, now is the time to practice repairing items.

                        Do you have the necessary tools and materials?


                        Sewing Awl makes an excellent tool for Boots, web gear, and other heavy duty repairs.

                        An assortment of needles, threads, and don’t forget a thimble.

                        Material in a variety of weights and styles.

                        Consider upgrading workwear with reinforced knees and elbows.

                        Watch some YouTube videos and practice or consider a class.


                        Treadle Sewing Machines, both foot and handcrank make an excellent addition to the well equipped Rationalist.

                        Some of the old Singer Featherweights can use both AC and DC, which could be of use if you have a alternative power.

                        Yes, there is much more than beans, bullets, and bandaids for true survival.

                      • #90425
                        Max
                        Keymaster

                          Note: This isn’t Max, but a glitch related to the switch to subscription.

                          It helps to know how to fix these things also. I bought my wife a Singer 66 sewing machine just like the one pictured above. Looked on the net, found the owners manual and a teardown and rebuild book in pdf format. :good:

                          Note: This isn’t Max, but a glitch related to the switch to subscription.

                        • #90426
                          Robert
                          Participant

                            I need a new belt for a unit that looks just like that. The belt looks to be some sort of leather strap concoction.

                          • #90427
                            Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                            Moderator

                              I need a new belt for a unit that looks just like that. The belt looks to be some sort of leather strap concoction.

                              Surprisingly Amazon has a good selection of Treadle belts.

                              They also sell material to make your own.

                            • #90428
                              Max
                              Keymaster

                                Note: This isn’t Max, but a glitch related to the switch to subscription.

                                laundry soap. 1 5 gal bucket (one time purchase), 1 5 gal bucket gamma lid one time purchase), 1 bar soap, 1 cup of borax laundry booster, 1 cup arm and hammer laundry soap. Grate the bar soap, render down grated bar soap in sauce pan with 4 cups of water, add 3 gallons of water and borax/A@M laundry booster to 5 gal bucket, then mix in rendered down bar soap when slightly cooled. fill remaining space in bucket with water, let stand over night, ready to use. 5 gallons of laundry soap for less than 2.50 once you got the buckets. cheapest store bought 5 gallons of soap is around 10-15.00. my clothes are cleaner and i can add organic oils for different reason, smells etc. I buy borax, arm and hammer laundry soap and felsnap bar soap in bulk. can be used for dish soap as well. as for inflation, well the 3 pack of bleach at Costco is no longer 1 gallons jugs. the new jugs are now 2/3 gallons. i did not notice until i placed it next to the other Costco bleach 3 pack purchased no longer than 2 years ago. 2% inflation, cough cough, right…….

                                Note: This isn’t Max, but a glitch related to the switch to subscription.

                              • #90429
                                Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                Moderator

                                  my clothes are cleaner and i can add organic oils for different reason, smells etc.

                                  Excellent point! I am in complete agreement about clothes being cleaner too.

                                  i did not notice until i placed it next to the other Costco bleach 3 pack purchased no longer than 2 years ago. 2% inflation, cough cough, right…

                                  There are many products that this applies, the only way to not have a big jump in price was using this deceptive measure.

                                  The government keeps the stated inflation numbers low by excluding any product that doesn’t fit the preconceived desired percentage! :wacko:

                                  Very similar fuzzy math is used for the unemployment numbers.

                                • #90430
                                  Corvette
                                  Participant

                                    It’s a simple rounded leather belt. I used to work for the Singer Co., before it was bought out by the Chinese. We threw away tons of spare parts from Dead Stock for these old machines so the company could write it off for a tax break. Pennies on the dollar.

                                  • #90431
                                    Corvette
                                    Participant

                                      BTW, what is this shaving of which you speak? Grow a manly beard! ;-)

                                    • #90432
                                      Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                      Moderator

                                        BTW, what is this shaving of which you speak? Grow a manly beard!

                                        Way ahead of you, but there are still parts of face that I shave not to mention various operational necessities.

                                        :good:

                                      • #90433
                                        Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                        Moderator

                                          Dumpster diving?

                                          Everything from real dumpsters to trashouts of estates. It is truly amazing what is thrown out at times.

                                          Trashouts have shown a particularly amazing variety.

                                          I’ve acquired working field phones, collector baseball cards, lockbox with silver coins, to name just a few finds.

                                        • #90434
                                          trailman
                                          Participant

                                            In our area the developments have bulk trash days about twice a year. A major scavenger treasure trove. You’ll see people driving around in trucks pulling trailers grabbing stuff people throw out. I picked up an entire workbench kit once, still in the box.

                                            I’ll also throw out freecycle.org you’d be amazed at what people just want to get rid of or have to give for the asking.

                                          • #90435
                                            Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                            Moderator

                                              Survival mindset is seeing what can be, vice what is, necessity is the mother of invention and the key to improvisation.

                                            • #90436
                                              Corvette
                                              Participant

                                                Manual hand tools are a good thing to have. Flea markets and yard sales often turn up bargains. Hand drills, augers, etc. No need for electricity. BTW, stock up on nails and other such necessities.

                                              • #90437
                                                Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                Moderator

                                                  Yearly and timely bump to go along with Robert’s offer to help inform.

                                                • #125047
                                                  Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                  Moderator

                                                    Yearly bump.

                                                  • #125051
                                                    Sitting Duck
                                                    Participant

                                                      Fels Naptha soap, Borax, and washing soda is good stuff. It won’t quite get the stink of Diesel and Hydraulic oil out but it’s better than anything else.

                                                      An old saying, “I don’t have money for bubble gum.” or Soda Pop or whatever else was a trivial thing that wouldn’t help get someone to where they want to be in life.

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