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    • #79760
      Joe (G.W.N.S.)

        AltRight Nazi? :wacko:

        Here is an excerpt from a translation of a Nazi pamphlet (1932) written by Joseph Goebbels. As should be apparent to all, I consider Joseph Goebbels to be a true subject matter expert on Nazi matters.

        Those Damned Nazis
        by Joseph Goebbels

        Why Are We Socialists?

        We are socialists because we see in socialism, that is the union of all citizens, the only chance to maintain our racial inheritance and to regain our political freedom and renew our German state.

        Socialism is the doctrine of liberation for the working class. It promotes the rise of the fourth class and its incorporation in the political organism of our Fatherland, and is inextricably bound to breaking the present slavery and regaining German freedom. Socialism, therefore, is not merely a matter of the oppressed class, but a matter for everyone, for freeing the German people from slavery is the goal of contemporary policy. Socialism gains its true form only through a total fighting brotherhood with the forward-striving energies of a newly awakened nationalism. Without nationalism it is nothing, a phantom, a mere theory, a castle in the sky, a book. With it it is everything, the future, freedom, the fatherland!

        The sin of liberal thinking was to overlook socialism’s nation-building strengths, thereby allowing its energies to go in anti-national directions. The sin of Marxism was to degrade socialism into a question of wages and the stomach, putting it in conflict with the state and its national existence. An understanding of both these facts leads us to a new sense of socialism, which sees its nature as nationalistic, state-building, liberating and constructive.

        The bourgeois is about to leave the historical stage. In its place will come the class of productive workers, the working class, that has been up until today oppressed. It is beginning to fulfill its political mission. It is involved in a hard and bitter struggle for political power as it seeks to become part of the national organism. The battle began in the economic realm; it will finish in the political. It is not merely a matter of wages, not only a matter of the number of hours worked in a day — though we may never forget that these are an essential, perhaps even the most significant part of the socialist platform — but it is much more a matter of incorporating a powerful and responsible class in the state, perhaps even to make it the dominant force in the future politics of the fatherland. The bourgeoisie does not want to recognize the strength of the working class. Marxism has forced it into a straitjacket that will ruin it. While the working class gradually disintegrates in the Marxist front, bleeding itself dry, the bourgeoisie and Marxism have agreed on the general lines of capitalism, and see their task now to protect and defend it in various ways, often concealed.

        We are socialists because we see the social question as a matter of necessity and justice for the very existence of a state for our people, not a question of cheap pity or insulting sentimentality. The worker has a claim to a living standard that corresponds to what he produces. We have no intention of begging for that right. Incorporating him in the state organism is not only a critical matter for him, but for the whole nation. The question is larger than the eight-hour day. It is a matter of forming a new state consciousness that includes every productive citizen. Since the political powers of the day are neither willing nor able to create such a situation, socialism must be fought for. It is a fighting slogan both inwardly and outwardly. It is aimed domestically at the bourgeois parties and Marxism at the same time, because both are sworn enemies of the coming workers’ state. It is directed abroad at all powers that threaten our national existence and thereby the possibility of the coming socialist national state.

        Socialism is possible only in a state that is united domestically and free internationally. The bourgeoisie and Marxism are responsible for failing to reach both goals, domestic unity and international freedom. No matter how national and social these two forces present themselves, they are the sworn enemies of a socialist national state.

        We must therefore break both groups politically. The lines of German socialism are sharp, and our path is clear.

        We are against the political bourgeoisie, and for genuine nationalism!

        We are against Marxism, but for true socialism!

        We are for the first German national state of a socialist nature!

        We are for the National Socialist German Workers’ Party!

        Next up, Antifaschistische Aktion (Antifa).

      • #79761
        Joe (G.W.N.S.)

          This article by Jerome R. Corsi is worth examining.

          How the Violent Hard-Left “Antifa” Movement Copies Communists in Weimar Republic Germany

          WASHINGTON, D.C. — Police across the United States are being forced to deal with a new hard-Left, communist-derived movement organized under the code word “Antifa,” standing for “Anti-Fascist.”

          The violent, confrontational nature of Antifa anarchists presents a challenge to U.S. law enforcement that is unprecedented; they reject the free speech principles upon which civil discourse depends, while seeking to achieve the demise of the U.S. Constitution, as it holds as illegitimate any compromise with their communist worldview.

          The Antifa movement roots in Weimar Republic Germany

          While the Antifa movement is anarchic in nature, it owes its birth to the Communist Party’s opposition to the Nazi fascist movement in post-World War I Germany.

          1930s fascism is best explained by Jonah Goldberg. In his 2008 book Liberal Fascism, he points out that fascism is a phenomenon of the political Left, in that communists and fascists were “closely related, historical competitors for the same constituents.” In a key paragraph applying these principles to American fascism, Goldberg wrote:

          Much like the Nazi movement, liberal fascism had two faces: the street radicals and the establishment radicals. In Germany, the two groups worked in tandem to weaken middle-class resistance to the Nazis’ agenda. In the previous chapter we saw how the liberal fascists of the SDS and the Black Panther movements rose up to terrorize the American middle class. In the remainder of this chapter — and the next — we will explain how the “suit-and-tie radicals” of the 1960s, people like Hillary Clinton and her friends, use this terror to expand the power and scope of the state and above all to change the public attitude toward the state as the agent of social progress and universal caring and compassion.

          The Antifa movement in the U.S. is a return to the communist paramilitary riot tactics developed to fight the Brownshirts of the Weimar Republic. The goal was to terrorize middle-class Germans into rejecting the Nazis who had embraced the social-welfare programs of prior regimes. Today, few except professional historians realize Germany was the first country in the world to introduce government-funded universal healthcare. This was part of Chancellor Otto von Bismarck’s “anti-socialist” legislation, adopted under the theory that a little socialism would prevent the German people from embracing a more virulent form of socialism.

          On June 12, 2017, the New Jersey Department of Homeland Security and Preparedness officially declared Antifa to be a terrorist group, explaining the following: “Anti-fascist groups, or ‘Antifa,’ are a subset of the anarchist movement and focus on issues involving racism, sexism, and anti-Semitism, as well as other perceived injustices.” The New Jersey DHS stressed that the Antifa movement is opposed to “fascism, racism, and law enforcement,” while targeting in particular far-right extremists, including perceived white supremacists.

          Today, the Antifa movement that originally formed in Germany in the 1980s has taken root in the United States, with the goal of rubbing raw social and racial class tensions in order to delegitimize the U.S. Constitution, bring down the Trump administration, and cause the political chaos the Antifa movement believes will lead to the creation of a communist state here in the U.S.A.

          Antifa Street-thug Insurrection Tactics

          On January 20, Antifa thugs — most dressed in black from head to toe and wearing masks or bandannas hiding their faces — launched violent street protests in Washington, D.C., in an attempt to “shut down” Donald Trump’s inauguration.

          In what was branded as a “DisruptJ20” protest, some 1,000 Antifa thugs broke windows at Starbucks, McDonald’s, and Bank of America, as well as in commercial buildings in downtown Washington. Antifa rioters flooded streets, blocked traffic, burned trash in the streets, and broke windshields of passing cars. They threatened to attack inauguration attendees on the streets, while shouting a continuous flow of angry, vulgar, and confrontational in-your-face insults.

          Washington D.C., police, armed in riot gear, responded by using tear gas and pepper spray to clear the streets of protesters. Despite this, a violent rampage started two blocks from the White House, and a stretch limousine was set on fire after protesters threw a flare through its shattered windows.

          Six police were injured, and around 230 rioters were arrested. Those arrested were charged with felonious rioting — an offense that carries a maximum penalty of 10 years in prison plus $25,000 in fines.

          The Antifa movement claimed success in Berkeley when protesters shut down conservative LGBT activist Milo Yiannopoulos from speaking on February 2, 2017.

          Two months later, Antifa groups staged a violent protest in Portland, Oregon, that caused the city to cancel the annual Rose Festival — another success, given that the Antifa protesters were upset the Multnomah County Republican Party planned to participate.

          Undercover videos made by James O’Keefe’s Project Veritas during Inaugural Day revealed the Antifa protesters were not university students, as was the case in the 1960s protests at universities against the Vietnam War, but professional agitators willing to plot criminal activity to create the chaos from the Left they believe will lead to an insurrection overthrowing the U.S. government.

          Antifa Also Anti-liberal

          In an article published in the left-leaning Nation on January 19, 2017, British-born, Brooklyn-based activist Natasha Lennard explained why the Antifa movement disregards traditional liberals as well as conservatives deemed to be “fascists”:

          Anti-fascist, or Antifa, doesn’t only delineate that which opposes fascism. It is a set of tactics and practices that have developed since the early 20th century (and the rise of fascism in Italy) as a confrontational response to fascist groups, rooted in militant left-wing and anarchist politics.

          The militant or radical Left as described by Lennard has little — if anything — in common with the traditional liberal politics of Democrats such as John F. Kennedy and Hubert H. Humphrey in the 1960s. She continued:

          As organizers from anti-fascist research and news site Antifa NYC told The Nation: “Antifa combines radical left-wing and anarchist politics, revulsion at racists, sexists, homophobes, anti-Semites, and Islamophobes, with the international anti-fascist culture of taking to the streets and physically confronting the brownshirts of white supremacy, whoever they may be.” As with fascisms, not all anti-fascisms are the same, but the essential feature is that anti-fascism does not tolerate fascism; it would give it no platform for debate.

          In the 1950s, the McCarthy attacks on Democrats in the U.S. government did not stick precisely because Democrats of that era were not communists.

          Lennard made it clear that Antifa radicals are not traditionally liberal when she insisted that, “in sharp contrast with many liberals, Antifa activists refuse any dialogue with Trumpism.”

          Today, law enforcement needs to be aware that Antifa-led anarchist violence is certain to plague the mid-term national elections in 2018 as well as the upcoming presidential election in 2020, precisely because the Democratic Party is moving in a decidedly hard-left direction, as politicians like Bernie Sanders remain the champion of millions of Millennial voters.

          Currently, the Democratic Party chair is Tom Perez, a radical La Raza lawyer from Maryland, who used his time in Obama’s Justice Department to launch a series of challenges to law enforcement officers who sought to enforce immigration laws.

          Number two to Perez is House Representative Keith Ellison, the first Muslim elected to the House of Representatives and a former member of the Louis Farrakhan-led Nation of Islam.

          In the 1930s, the German group Antifaschistische Aktion (Antifascist Action) led to the rise of the Nazi state; the communists destabilized the Weimar Republic; and Nazi Brownshirts won the street battle due to their larger numbers, superior financing, and better organization.

          Today, there are no Brownshirts on the Left opposing Antifa communists with a socialist-fascist agenda. The opposition to Antifa this time is the political Right, as witnessed by the coalition of “fly-over state” middle-class Americans that rejected Hillary Clinton’s presidential candidacy.

          The Antifa movement would like nothing better than an uprising of white-supremacist, far-right extremists to oppose them in fist fights.

          But the truth is that in the United States, the majority of conservatives and libertarians voting for Trump are not white supremacists any more than they are far-Right extremists. The numbers of actual far-right extremists remain so relatively small that Antifa radicals are unlikely to destabilize or delegitimize the Trump presidency, regardless of how hopeful the far-Left remains. Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh are not Joseph Goebbels, regardless of how Tom Perez and Bernie Sanders characterize the voices on the political Right supporting Trump.

          But the numbers of Antifa criminal protesters will grow, championed by leftist politicians that 1960s voters would fail to recognize as true supporters of the Constitution.

          For the near-term future, we should expect the Antifa movement to remain a street-thug problem for riot-trained law enforcement units; it will continue to grow in numbers and in violent intensity as the Democratic Party further radicalizes and embraces communist ideals, and as the 2018 mid-term elections draw near.

        • #79762

            And history repeats itself; thanks Joe excellent update.

          • #79763

              And history repeats itself; thanks Joe excellent update.


            • #79764
              D Close

                The discussion of Left or Right is confusing me. In the European experience, the Naxis were considered Right. In the American lexicon, socialism and thus Nazism, is a Leftist ideology. Yet the press and even the organizers of Charlottesville include Nazis on the Right.

              • #79765
                Joe (G.W.N.S.)

                  In the American lexicon, socialism and thus Nazism, is a Leftist ideology.

                  As it should be IMHO.

                  Yet the press and even the organizers of Charlottesville include Nazis on the Right.

                  Propaganda to define the narrative.

                  Consider this history that is also twisted through lies.


                  Jim Crow laws were state and local laws that enforced racial segregation in the Southern United States. Enacted by white Democrat(ic)-dominated state legislatures in the late 19th century after the Reconstruction period, these laws continued to be enforced until 1965.


                  In the 1870s, Democrats gradually regained power in the Southern legislatures, having used insurgent paramilitary groups, such as the White League and the Red Shirts, to disrupt Republican organizing, run Republican officeholders out of town, and intimidate blacks to suppress their voting. Extensive voter fraud was also used.

                  How many today have any idea that the racist laws and organizations are a creation of the Democrats?

                • #79766

                    I agree that the future opposition to the Antifa Communists will not be the Neo Nazi’s or White Supremacists groups. They re so tiny and really have no appeal to middle America. Clearly the media is flying air cover for the Antifa as are the local democrat politicians.

                    However, any resistance from middle America will be portrayed as Nazis. If the local Boy Scout troop fights back; they will be deemed Nazis.

                    A future violent resistance to Antifa will have to take place, lest they destroy all civilization. I am not sure what it will be called but when Antifa comes into your neighborhood, destroying and pillaging; there will be resistance. Perhaps it will just be regular guys standing behind the cops.

                    Which is why most Antifa actions will probably take place in Leftist locations. No challenge to Antifa.

                  • #79767

                      The end result is the same with both the far left and far right. They both want to control how people live i.e. some sort of dictatorship. Neither truly supports the ideals our country was founded upon.

                    • #79768

                        Thank you indeed Joe for these links, and the other links you provided helping to promote analytical thinking over the Charlottesville propaganda.
                        I seem to be behind the curve on these subject matters compared to other forum posters, but I’m learning. This forum is a virtual library in so many subject areas.

                      • #79769
                        Joe (G.W.N.S.)

                          There is a propaganda battle to control the the narrative of ideas.

                          I would make the argument that there is no “real” Far-Right in the U.S. that is a legitimate threat.

                          The reality is the so-called Far-Right Threat is actually a propaganda creation of Left, a bogeyman to scare their own and the ignorant.

                          As shown above the Neo-nazi and KKK are in reality variations of and creations of the left.

                          On the “True” Far-Right we have Anarcho-capitalism, White separatism (true vice hidden White supremacy), and some variations of Fascism.

                          However these groups are almost nonexistent, a limited collection with few numbers, some with big ideas, but no real movement at this time. Hence there is no legitimate threat there.

                          If I am missing a legitimate Far-Right threat; that isn’t a creation of the Far-Left, let’s hear about it.

                        • #79770

                            However, any resistance from middle America will be portrayed as Nazis. If the local Boy Scout troop fights back; they will be deemed Nazis.

                            Their uniforms do include brown shirts, after all.

                            Thank you for the links, Joe. What discussions I’ve had with others in this subject reinforce the fact that most people don’t pay enough attention to history.

                          • #79771
                            Joe (G.W.N.S.)

                              What discussions I’ve had with others in this subject reinforce the fact that most people don’t pay enough attention to history.


                            • #79772
                              Joe (G.W.N.S.)

                                On the “True” Far-Right we have Anarcho-capitalism, White separatism (true vice hidden White supremacy), and some variations of Fascism.

                                However these groups are almost nonexistent, a limited collection with few numbers, some with big ideas, but no real movement at this time. Hence there is no legitimate threat there.

                                Let’s examine the potential threats posed by above.


                                Anarcho-capitalism is a political philosophy that advocates the elimination of the state in favor of individual sovereignty, private property, and free markets. Anarcho-capitalists believe that, in the absence of statute (law by decree or legislation), society would improve itself through the discipline of the free market (or what its proponents describe as a “voluntary society”).

                                In an anarcho-capitalist society, law enforcement, courts, and all other security services would be operated by privately funded competitors rather than centrally through taxation. Money, along with all other goods and services, would be privately and competitively provided in an open market. Therefore, personal and economic activities under anarcho-capitalism would be regulated by victim-based dispute resolution organizations under tort and contract law, rather than by statute through centrally determined punishment under political monopolies.

                                If we believe their writings, my concerns are pretty well summed up by this previous discussion:

                                Don’t like this non-aggression principle. Preemptive action is a good thing.

                                Agreed, in theory non-aggression as a general guideline is noble, but there is always unique circumstances that require alternatives.

                                Also, this contracting out to so called defensive organizations is very suspect.

                                Yea it really doesn’t seem realistic, not to mention the potential for being abused. Variations of Bill Buppert’s ideal could potentially form locally after some sort of collapse event. I could see the possibility of trade or other dealings with them, but can’t see myself joining in on this unproven theory.

                                White separatism:
                                While certainly racist and distasteful, it is benign in the sense it doesn’t want cohabitation among other Races, in essence to be left alone to others with this view with no threats of force offered against other Races. Threats still include White supremacist’s using this as cover and as a “breeding ground” for future White supremacy movements.

                                Variations of Fascism:
                                I know of no major or minor movements promoting so-called Right Wing Fascism, however I’ve noted some disturbing undercurrents among some on so-called Prepper/Liberty Blogs and Forums.

                                Comments that at the very least lean towards elimination of all who oppose their views. These ideas range from variations of Theocracy to what would be in their minds benevolent Dictators.

                                Fortunately these seem the more the ramblings of lunatics than outright movements, but vigilance is required to avoid such from growing into more.

                                None of the above is in anyway near the Right Wing Bogeyman portrayed by the Left’s current propaganda narrative.

                              • #79773
                                Joe (G.W.N.S.)

                                  Interesting blend of history and possible consequences.

                                  America’s 2nd Civil War
                                  Pat Buchanan: ‘Like ISIS … the new barbarism has come to America’

                                  “They had found a leader, Robert E. Lee – and what a leader! … No military leader since Napoleon has aroused such enthusiastic devotion among troops as did Lee when he reviewed them on his horse Traveller.”

                                  So wrote Samuel Eliot Morison in his magisterial “The Oxford History of the American People” in 1965.

                                  First in his class at West Point, hero of the Mexican War, Lee was the man to whom President Lincoln turned to lead his army. But when Virginia seceded, Lee would not lift up his sword against his own people and chose to defend his home state rather than wage war upon her.

                                  This veneration of Lee, wrote Richard Weaver, “appears in the saying attributed to a Confederate soldier, ‘The rest of us may have … descended from monkeys, but it took a God to make Marse Robert.’”

                                  Growing up after World War II, this was accepted history.

                                  Yet, on the militant left today, the name Lee evokes raw hatred and howls of “racist and traitor.” A clamor has arisen to have all statues of him and all Confederate soldiers and statesmen pulled down from their pedestals and put in museums or tossed onto trash piles.

                                  What has changed since 1965?

                                  It is not history. There have been no great new discoveries about Lee.

                                  What has changed is America herself. She is not the same country. We have passed through a great social, cultural and moral revolution that has left us irretrievably divided on separate shores.

                                  And the politicians are in panic.

                                  Two years ago, Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe called the giant statues of Lee and “Stonewall” Jackson on Richmond’s Monument Avenue “parts of our heritage.” After Charlottesville, New York-born-and-bred McAuliffe, entertaining higher ambitions, went full scalawag, demanding the statues be pulled down as “flashpoints for hatred, division and violence.”

                                  Who hates the statues, Terry? Who’s going to cause the violence? Answer: The Democratic left whom Terry must now appease.

                                  McAuliffe is echoed by Lt. Gov. Ralph Northam, the Democratic candidate in November to succeed McAuliffe. GOP nominee Ed Gillespie wants Monument Avenue left alone.

                                  The election is the place to decide this, but the left will not wait.

                                  In Durham, North Carolina, our Taliban smashed the statue of a Confederate soldier. Near the entrance of Duke University Chapel, a statue of Lee has been defaced, the nose broken off.

                                  Wednesday at dawn, Baltimore carried out a cultural cleansing by taking down statues of Lee and Maryland Chief Justice Roger Taney who wrote the Dred Scott decision and opposed Lincoln’s suspension of the right of habeas corpus.

                                  Like ISIS, which smashed the storied ruins of Palmyra, and the al-Qaida rebels who ravaged the fabled Saharan city of Timbuktu, the new barbarism has come to America. This is going to become a blazing issue, not only between but within the parties.

                                  For there are 10 Confederates in Statuary Hall in the Capitol, among them Lee, Georgia’s Alexander Stephens, vice president to Jefferson Davis, and Davis himself. The Black Caucus wants them gone.

                                  Mount Rushmore-sized carvings of Lee, Jackson and Davis are on Stone Mountain, Georgia. Are they to be blasted off?

                                  There are countless universities, colleges and high schools like Washington & Lee named for Confederate statesmen and soldiers. Across the Potomac from D.C. are Jefferson Davis Highway and Leesburg Pike to Leesburg itself, 25 miles north. Are all highways, streets, towns and counties named for Confederates to be renamed? What about Fort Bragg?

                                  On every Civil War battlefield, there are monuments to the Southern fallen. Gettysburg has hundreds of memorials, statues and markers. But if, as the left insists we accept, the Confederates were traitors trying to tear America apart to preserve an evil system, upon what ground do Democrats stand to resist the radical left’s demands?

                                  What do we do with those battlefields where Confederates were victorious: Bull Run, Fredericksburg, Chancellorsville?

                                  “Where does this all end?” President Trump asked.

                                  It doesn’t. Not until America’s histories and biographies are burned and new texts written to Nazify Lee, Jackson, Davis and all the rest, will a newly indoctrinated generation of Americans accede to this demand to tear down and destroy what their fathers cherished.

                                  And once all the Confederates are gone, one must begin with the explorers, and then the slave owners like Presidents Washington, Jefferson and Madison, who seceded from slave-free Britain. White supremacists all.

                                  Andrew Jackson, Henry Clay of Kentucky and John Calhoun must swiftly follow.

                                  Then there are all those segregationists. From 1865 to 1965, virtually all of the great Southern senators were white supremacists.

                                  In the first half of the 20th century, Woodrow Wilson and FDR carried all 11 states of a rigidly segregationist South all six times they ran, and FDR rewarded Dixie by putting a Klansman on the Supreme Court.

                                  While easy for Republicans to wash their hands of such odious elements as Nazis in Charlottesville, will they take up the defense of the monuments and statues that have defined our history, or capitulate to the icon-smashers?

                                  In this Second American Civil War, whose side are you on?

                                • #79774
                                  Joe (G.W.N.S.)

                                    Some more inconvenient truth for the Socialists!

                                    ‘Rise of fascism’? It’s already entrenched on left
                                    D’Souza chastises media for focus on powerless, fringe white supremacists

                                    In their coverage of the violence in Charlottesville, Virginia, establishment media continue to warn “fascism” is on the rise in America.

                                    But a bestselling conservative author and filmmaker contends fascism isn’t on the rise – it’s already entrenched in leading institutions controlled by the left.

                                    In an interview with Stefan Molyneux of Freedomain Radio, Dinesh D’Souza discussed the state of American politics and his remarkable discoveries while writing his new book, “The Big Lie: Exposing The Nazi Roots Of The American Left.”

                                    He said the left-wing journalists complaining of the growth of “fascism” are being deeply disingenuous, because white supremacists don’t have any actual power.

                                    “The reason they want Trump to call out the white supremacists is they want to put all the attention on these rag-tag guys who have very little power in American society,” D’Souza said.

                                    “The white supremacists don’t have the power to keep a book out of a library. They don’t have the power to decide what students read. They can’t drive conservative or liberal speakers off campus. They just don’t have that kind of power,” he said.

                                    Molyneux added that white nationalists “don’t own the media, they don’t own academia, they don’t own the mainstream news outlets, they are inconsequential in the larger sphere.”

                                    “It’s not even David versus Goliath. It’s like a flea on a distant mountain versus Goliath,” the host said.

                                    D’Souza said the coordinated media campaign against white nationalists is pure projection by the actual fascists who control major American institutions.

                                    “Goliath is trying to take his own fascism and impose it on the flea,” he said. “The more dangerous fascism in America today is in the institutions. It’s not even Antifa. It’s the Hollywood boss who gets to say who works in the industry. It’s the dean who controls a billion-dollar endowment who gets to exclude a whole swath of conservative thought from the campus. It’s the ability of the media to bludgeon people into submission, to threaten to humiliate them and destroy them and make them pariahs if they don’t pay obeisance to prevailing ideologies.”

                                    D’Souza explained the current leftist tactic of targeting and removing political dissidents from jobs or positions of influence is simply an old fascist tactic carried over to the present day.

                                    “The Nazis called this ‘Gleichschaltung,’ meaning coordination, but it really refers to beating the whole society, using the institutions of culture – media, film, the state – against your opposition to make them cower before you,” he observed.

                                    “The reason Trump is such a renegade is because he refuses to cower before these guys. Mitt Romney will cower. McCain will cower. Conservative intellectuals are perfectly happy to do genuflections. But Trump won’t do it. And I think he’s stronger for it.”

                                    D’Souza argued “fascism” has a specific meaning even though the left simply uses it as a slur against people it doesn’t like. The New York Times bestselling author explained fascism grew out of socialism when leftist intellectuals needed an explanation for why Karl Marx’s supposedly inevitable communist revolution was failing to manifest.

                                    “This is very important because this is a part of the origin of fascism that the left has suppressed,” he told Molyneux. “The progressives in academia have tried to make sure that this story does not get into the textbooks.

                                    “Fascism is an outgrowth of Marxism and of socialism. At the end of the 19th century, a lot of intelligent Marxists were scratching their heads because a lot of the prophecies of Marx weren’t coming true. Marx had predicted the outbreaks of communist revolutions in countries like England and Germany, and this just wasn’t happening. So the smart Marxists said: ‘Something is wrong with Marx. We need to modify Marx. We need a kind of new Marxism, if you will, for the 20th century.’

                                    Out of that, he said came two offshoots, Leninist Bolshevism, itself a revision of Marxism, and Mussolini’s fascism.

                                    “Mussolini was in fact a Marxist, the most famous Marxist in Italy along with Gramsci, and Mussolini was the editor of the Socialist Party magazine,” D’Souza noted. “So when Mussolini became a fascist, it was seen as a leftist move. Shortly after Mussolini’s march on Rome establishing the first fascist regime in the world, Lenin sent a telegram of congratulations. Why? He recognized Mussolini as a fellow revolutionary of the left.”

                                    Yet many progressives would simply dismiss that history as having no contemporary importance. It’s a critique D’Souza recognizes.

                                    “What does this matter today?” he asked rhetorically.

                                    And he had a direct answer.

                                    “First of all, the ideology of the Democratic Party now, its economic ideology, is essentially indistinguishable from fascism,” he said. “It’s closer to fascism than it is to, say, Marxian socialism. Consider this: Socialist countries like to nationalize private industry.

                                    D’Souza said that in his native country of India, the socialist governments since the 1940s have taken over the banks, the energy sector, the airlines and other industries.

                                    “Now, in America, we don’t have that. Even under Obama. Look at Obama – we have private hospitals, we have private health insurance companies, but the government tells them what to do,” he said. “The government sets the prices, the government decides who is eligible. So we have state-directed capitalism. We’ve seen that in the banking sector, investment, housing, we’ve seen that in the energy sector. This state-directed capitalism much more closely approximates classical fascism than it does classical socialism.”

                                    Drawing on Mussolini’s famous definition of fascism as “all within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state,” D’Souza said it is very easy to determine which of the two major American political parties aligns more closely to fascist ideology.

                                    He explained fascism reduces individuals to a kind of “cell” whose rights don’t matter but simply exist to serve within the “living organism of the state.”

                                    “Well, hey, does that sound like the platform of the Republican Party or the Democratic Party,” D’Souza asked?

                                    Given the massive power of the left, what can be done?

                                    D’Souza offered two concrete suggestions.

                                    “The first solution is to be informed, and I don’t mean be informed in a generic sense,” he said. “I mean have at your disposal, in your quiver, the arrows to shoot down the big lie.

                                    “In my last book and movie, ‘Hillary’s America,’ I tried to shoot down the race card, show how bogus it is. Democrats transferring responsibility for their own bigotry onto the Republican Party which was trying to stop them. This is what’s going on with the fascism card. The real fascists are on the left, fascism is a leftist ideology. They’re trying to project it onto the right, you need to be able to have the weapons to shoot them down.”

                                    The second suggestion is more immediate. In response to the rise of the alt-left “Antifa,” D’Souza urged the Trump administration to no longer allow progressive extremists to riot and attack people as they have been doing for so long.

                                    “We need to enforce the law across the board,” he said. “Sure, the white supremacists who plowed down that poor woman, he’s going to get his comeuppance. I’d like to see the felony rioters from the Inauguration [also receive criminal punishment], more than 200 of them, including 11 journalists arrested for rioting, that carries five to ten years in prison.

                                    “And yet from the left’s point of view going back to the ’60s, they’d be like, ‘Oh, I’ll spend a night in jail, I’ll be out in the morning, I’ll then be on MSNBC.’ But I think we need to say, ‘No, the law should be enforced across the board, and once we start handing out five- and 10-year sentences some of these Aantifa guys will think twice.’”

                                  • #79775
                                    Joe (G.W.N.S.)

                                      It’s nice to have all of this confirmation of what I’ve been discussing for a long time. ;-)

                                      Fascism’s Karl Marx: Man the left doesn’t want you to meet
                                      Exclusive: Dinesh D’Souza on hidden relevance of figure Dems wish would be ‘buried and forgotten’

                                      For fascism, the State and the individual are one.

                                      – Giovanni Gentile, “Origin and Doctrine of Fascism”

                                      The myth that fascism and Nazism are phenomena of the right relies heavily on Americans not knowing what fascism and Nazism really mean, what those ideologies stand for. Leftists in academia and the media have worked hard to portray fascism and Nazism in terms of sheer demagoguery and generic authoritarianism, carefully concealing the ideological roots that would reveal fascism and Nazism’s true political colors.

                                      Think about this: We know the name of the philosopher of capitalism, Adam Smith. We also know the name of the philosopher of Marxism, Karl Marx. So, quick: What is the name of the philosopher of fascism? Yes, exactly. You don’t know. Virtually no one knows. This is not because he doesn’t exist, but because the political left – which dominates academia, the media and Hollywood – had to get rid of him to avoid confronting fascism and Nazism’s unavoidable leftist orientation.

                                      So let’s meet the man himself, Giovanni Gentile, who may be termed fascism’s Karl Marx. Gentile was, in his day, which is the first half of the 20th century, considered one of Europe’s leading philosophers. A student of Hegel and Bergson and director of the Encyclopedia Italiana, Gentile was not merely a widely published and widely influential thinker; he was also a political statesman who served in a variety of important government posts. How, then, has such a prominent and influential figure vanished into the mist of history?

                                      Let’s consider some key aspects of Gentile’s philosophy. Following Aristotle and Marx, Gentile argues that man is a social animal. This means that we are not simply individuals in the world. Rather, our individuality is expressed through our relationships: we are students or workers, husbands or wives, parents and grandparents, members in this or that association or group and also citizens of a community or nation. To speak of man alone in the state of nature is a complete fiction; man is naturally at home in community, in society.

                                      Right away, we see that Gentile is a communitarian as opposed to a radical individualist. This distinguishes him from some libertarians and classical liberals, who emphasize individuality in contradistinction to society. But Gentile so far has said nothing with which conservatives – let’s say Reaganite conservatives – would disagree. Reagan in 1980 emphasized the importance of five themes: the individual, the family, the church, the community and the country. He accused the centralized state – big government – of undermining not merely our individuality but also these other associations.

                                      Gentile now contrasts two types of democracy that he says are “diametrically opposed.” The first is liberal democracy, which envisions society made up of individuals who form communities to protect and advance their rights and interests, specifically their economic interests in property and trade. Gentile regards this as selfish or bourgeois democracy, by which he means capitalist democracy, the democracy of the American founding. In its place, Gentile recommends a different type of democracy, “true democracy,” in which individuals willingly subordinate themselves to society and to the state.

                                      Gentile recognizes that his critique of bourgeois democracy echoes that of Marx, and Marx is his takeoff point. Like Marx, Gentile wants the unified community, a community that resembles the family, a community where we’re all in this together. I’m reminded here of New York Gov. Mario Cuomo’s keynote address at the 1984 Democratic Convention. Cuomo likened America to an extended family where, through the agency of government, we take care of each other in much the same manner that families look out for all their members.

                                      While Marx and Cuomo seem to view political communities as natural, inevitable associations, Gentile emphasized that such communities must be created voluntarily, through human action, operating as a consequence of human will. They are, in Gentile’s words, an idealistic or “spiritual creation.” For Gentile, people by themselves are too slothful and inert to form genuine communities by themselves; they have to be mobilized. Here, too, many modern progressives would agree. Speaking in terms with which both Obama and Hillary would sympathize, Gentile emphasized that leaders and organizers are needed to direct and channel the will of the people.

                                      Despite Gentile’s disagreement with Marx about historical inevitability, he has at this point clearly broken with modern conservatism and classical liberalism and revealed himself to be a man of the left. Gentile was, in fact, a lifelong socialist. Like Marx, he viewed socialism as the sine qua non of social justice, the ultimate formula for everyone paying their “fair share.” For Gentile, fascism is nothing more than a modified form of socialism, a socialism arising not merely from material deprivation but also from an aroused national consciousness, a socialism that unites rather than divides communities.

                                      Gentile also perceived socialism emerging out of revolutionary struggle, what the media today terms “protest” or “activism.” Revolutionaries, Gentile says, must be ready to disregard conventional rules and they must be willing to use violence. Gentile seems to be the unacknowledged ancestor of the street activism of Antifa and other leftist groups. “One of the major virtues of fascism,” he writes, “is that it obliged those who watched from the windows to come down into the street.”

                                      For Gentile, private action should be mobilized to serve the public interest, and there is no distinction between the private interest and the public interest. Correctly understood, the two are identical. Gentile argued that society represents “the very personality of the individual divested of accidental differences … where the individual feels the general interest as his own and wills therefore as might the general will.” In the same vein, Gentile argued that corporations too should serve the public welfare and not just the welfare of their owners and shareholders.

                                      Society and the state – for Gentile, the two were one and the same. Gentile saw the centralized state as the necessary administrative arm of society. Consequently, to submit to society is to submit to the state, not just in economic matters, but in all matters. Since everything is political, the state gets to tell everyone how to think and also what to do – there is no private sphere unregulated by the state. And to forestall resistance to the state, Gentile argued that the government should act not merely as a lawmaker but also a teacher, using the schools to promulgate its values and priorities.

                                      “All is in the state and nothing human exists or has value outside the state.” Mussolini said that, in the Dottrina del fascismo, one of the doctrinal statements of early fascism, but Gentile wrote it or, as we may say today, ghost wrote it. Gentile was, as you have probably figured by now, the leading philosopher of fascism. “It was Gentile,” Mussolini confessed, “who prepared the road for those like me who wished to take it.”

                                      Gentile served as a member of the Fascist Grand Council, a senator in the Upper House of Parliament, and also as Mussolini’s minister of education. Later, after Mussolini was deposed and established himself in the northern Italian province of Salo, Gentile became, at il Duce‘s request, the president of the Italian Academy. In 1944, Gentile was accosted in his apartment by members of a rival leftist faction who shot him at point-blank range.

                                      Gentile’s philosophy closely parallels that of the modern American left. Consider the slogan unveiled by Obama at the 2012 Democratic Convention: “We belong to the government.” That apotheosis of the centralized state is utterly congruent with Gentile’s thinking. Only Gentile would have provided a comprehensive philosophical defense that the Democrats didn’t even attempt. In many respects, Gentile provides a deeper and firmer grounding for modern American progressivism than anyone writing today.

                                      John Rawls, widely considered a philosophical guru of modern progressivism, seems like thin gruel compared to Gentile in offering an intellectual rationale for ever-expanding government control over the economy and our lives. While Rawls feels abstract and dated now, Gentile seems to speak directly to leftist activists in the Democratic Party, in the media, and on campus.

                                      One might naively expect the left, then, to embrace and celebrate Gentile. This, of course, will never happen. The left has the desperate need to conceal fascism’s deep association with contemporary leftism. Even when the left uses Gentile’s rhetoric, its source can never be publicly acknowledged. That’s why the progressives intend to keep Gentile where they’ve got him, dead, buried and forgotten.

                                    • #79776
                                      Joe (G.W.N.S.)

                                        Here is something not seeing the light of day regarding the current Antifa Lunatics.


                                        Clearly not the united front many would have us believe.

                                        What is it with these Antifa Lunatics? :wacko:

                                        As mad as I have ever been, the idea of collecting urine and feces to sling at people never occurred to me! :unsure:

                                      • #79777
                                        Joe (G.W.N.S.)

                                          Bias in the extreme!

                                          Major news agency calls punch-throwing leftists ‘peace activists’
                                          ‘This is how stupid the mainstream media thinks you are’

                                          It was nothing more than a caption on an image from Tuesday night’s violence by anti-Trump protesters after the president spoke in Phoenix, but it has created a significant backlash for Reuters, the news organization that transmitted it.

                                          It showed a man in a cowboy hat, holding a crutch, addressing someone with vehemence. A couple of other people were standing around, including one taking pictures.

                                          “Pro-Trump supporters face off with peace activists during protests outside a Trump rally in Phoenix. REUTERS/Sandy Huffaker,” said the caption.

                                          The caption generated a collective gasp on Twitter.

                                          Monica Crowley simply said “‘peace activists’” while Vince Coglianese asked, “Didn’t the ‘peace activists’ throw rocks at the cops?”

                                          The leftists who have been protesting Trump at his every appearance call themselves “antifa,” an abbreviation for anti-fascist. But they demand that any speech but their own be silenced and regard any any opposition as “hate.”

                                          The rally was in a state where Trump beat Hillary Clinton handily, and he was firing up his base.

                                          Pro-Trump supporters face off with peace activists during protests outside a Trump rally in Phoenix. REUTERS/Sandy Huffaker

                                          — Reuters Top News (@Reuters) August 23, 2017

                                          “Eddie” responded to Reuters, “Antifa are peace activists now? Hard to process how disingenuous our media has become.”

                                          Piper Fogle said, “What happened #2: Trump supporters in Phoenix blocked from leaving rally before being assaulted by left-wing rioters.”

                                          “Asa J” said, “‘Peace activists’ This is how stupid the mainstream media thinks your are,” and “Connie Hair” said, “Calling antifa ‘peace activists’ is Orwellian.”

                                          Explained “BlueReaganite”: “‘Peace activists’ Throw Urine. Slash horses. Attack grandma. Smash windows. Set fires. Throw rocks. Harass police. Shoot Congressmen.”

                                          Twitchy also noted anti-Trump protesters threw punches at Trump supporters in a pickup truck, and police fired what apparently was a pepper spray shell at an anti-Trump protester, hitting him in the groin, leaving him writhing on the ground. It happened just a few seconds after he had kicked a tear gas bomb back at police.

                                          AP cast the event negatively for the president, claiming he was “trying to recapture the fervor that helped put him in office.”

                                          The news wire reported the president said he thinks the U.S. will probably end the North American Free Trade Agreement, criticized Arizona Sens. Jeff Flake and John McCain, although not by name, saying the Senate was only one vote away from overhauling Obamacare (McCain voted against it) and another senator was “weak on borders.”

                                          Trump also said it may take a federal government shutdown to get Congress to provide funding for his border wall.

                                          And he signaled he may pardon former Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio, saying the lawman is “going to be just fine” following a conviction for contempt of court.

                                          AP reported it was “protesters” who “engaged in minor scuffles and shouting matches with President Donald Trump’s supporters.”

                                          The anti-Trump protesters were reported to be throwing water bottles at police, who responded with tear gas.

                                          Politico reported CNN anchor Don Lemon was infuriated by Trump’s speech.

                                          “It was devoid of wisdom,” Lemon claimed of Trump’s comments. “There was no gravitas. There was no sanity there. He was like a child blaming a sibling on something else.”

                                          Lemon went on: “Well, what do you say to that? I’m just going to speak from the heart here – what we have witnessed is a total eclipse of the facts. He’s unhinged. It’s embarrassing.”

                                          Fox News host Sean Hannity explained why Trump went after establishment media.

                                          “It is a disgrace how other media lied to the American people. And they continue to lie every single day,” he said.

                                        • #79778
                                          Joe (G.W.N.S.)

                                            Shocking I know? ;-)

                                            Antifa: The New Ku Klux Klan
                                            August 29, 2017, 12:05 am

                                            Shocker: The Left turns again to hooded agents of violence.

                                            Over at Conservative Review a while back, in a column titled “The Left’s Violent DNA,” I noted the following after the shooting of Congressman Steve Scalise:


                                            What do the Ku Klux Klan, the labor movement, Students for a Democratic Society, the Weathermen, Occupy Wall Street, and congressional shooter James T. Hodgkinson have in common?

                                            Answer: They all emerged from the murky depths of leftist politics. And all have a history of violence associated with their politics.”

                                            As if to prove the point the fascists of Antifa — stunning, I know, that real fascists would label themselves “Antifa” for PR purposes — were on the loose the other day in, yet again, Berkeley. Here is this report from, of all places, the Washington Post:

                                            Black-clad antifa members attack peaceful right-wing demonstrators in Berkeley

                                            Their faces hidden behind black bandannas and hoodies, about 100 anarchists and antifa — “anti-fascist” — members barreled into a protest Sunday afternoon in Berkeley’s Martin Luther King Jr. Civic Center Park.

                                            Jumping over plastic and concrete barriers, the group melted into a larger crowd of around 2,000 that had marched peacefully throughout the sunny afternoon for a “Rally Against Hate” gathering.

                                            Shortly after, violence began to flare. A pepper-spray-wielding Trump supporter was smacked to the ground with homemade shields. Another was attacked by five black-clad antifa members, each windmilling kicks and punches into a man desperately trying to protect himself.

                                            A conservative group leader retreated for safety behind a line of riot police as marchers chucked water bottles, shot off pepper spray and screamed, “Fascist go home!”

                                            All told, the Associated Press reported at least five individuals were attacked. An AP reporter witnessed the assaults. Berkeley Police’s Lt. Joe Okies told The Washington Post the rally resulted in “13 arrests on a range of charges including assault with a deadly weapon, obstructing a police officer, and various Berkeley municipal code violations.”

                                            In other words? In other words, yet again for the umpteenth time in the history of the American Left, it has turned to violence. And just as the paramilitary and hooded Ku Klux Klan was used as, per Columbia University historian Eric Foner, “a military force serving the interests of the Democratic Party” and, according to University of North Carolina historian Allen Trelease, the “terrorist arm of the Democratic Party,” so now the hooded- fascists of Antifa are being used as a paramilitary organization designed to further the Left’s political agenda by force.

                                            Some things never change.

                                            Human history has moved from the discovery of fire and the invention of the wheel to Apple, but what never changes is the hard fact of human nature. There have always been — and sadly there always will be — human beings who use violence to further their thirst for political power. Yesterday’s Klan is today’s Antifa. Worse, there will always be those who make excuses for this violence.

                                            Recall that infamous Democratic Convention of 1924 in Madison Square Garden smack in the middle of New York City? Known to history as “the Klan Bake”?

                                            The Democratic Platform produced by those 1924 Democratic Delegates began this way:

                                            We, the representatives of the democratic party, in national convention assembled, pay our profound homage to the memory of Woodrow Wilson. Our hearts are filled with gratitude that American democracy should have produced this man, whose spirit and influence will live on through the ages; and that it was our privilege to have co-operated with him in the advancement of ideals of government which will serve as an example and inspiration for this and future generations. We affirm our abiding faith in those ideals and pledge ourselves to take up the standard which he bore and to strive for the full triumph of the principles of democracy to which he dedicated his life.

                                            Unmentioned? That Woodrow Wilson was a world class racist who, upon taking office, went about segregating the American military and show-casing at the White House a showing of Birth of a Nation, the infamous film celebrating the Ku Klux Klan. That very same convention — heavily populated by delegates who were Klan members — rejected a party platform plank that condemned the Klan. To celebrate, history records that tens of thousands of hooded, torch-bearing Klan members gathered across the Hudson River in a New Jersey field to celebrate.

                                            Over here at Breitbart is this interesting story. The headline:

                                            Mayor Is Member of Antifa Facebook Group that Organized Riots

                                            Berkeley Mayor Jesse Arreguin is a member of the anti-fascist Facebook group, By Any Means Necessary, which orchestrated the riots that occurred ahead of a scheduled lecture by Milo Yiannopoulos.

                                            Berkeley Mayor Jesse Arreguin was revealed to be a member of the anti-fascist group, By Any Means Necessary (BAMN), on Facebook. BAMN orchestrated the violence that shut down a scheduled lecture at UC Berkeley featuring Milo Yiannopoulos in early 2017. Arreguin is allegedly also friends with BAMN leader, Yvette Felarca, on Facebook.

                                            In other words? Just as the Klan populated the delegates of the 1924 Democratic Convention (and clearly many others), so now Antifa is populating American government with its own Klan-aping members. No wonder they want President Trump removed from office.

                                            Hello? America? The Republican Party of Lincoln, Reagan, Kemp — and Trump?

                                            Where are you?

                                          • #79779
                                            Joe (G.W.N.S.)

                                              Please note when reviewing the following that this has nothing to do with the modern debate regarding abortion, but the truly monstrous roots of Planned Parenthood!

                                              These roots are firmly embedded in real racism among other evil views and actions.

                                              Actions taken in pursuit of the establishment of their Socialist utopia.

                                              This utopia has no room for dissent.

                                              I recommend reading the following more than once to fully appreciate what I’ve been walking us through regarding these “Socialist by any Name.”

                                              Before getting into this article, consider the following video with Hillary Clinton.

                                              Exclusive – D’Souza: The Hitler-Sanger Connection

                                              More children from the fit; less from the unfit—that is the chief issue of birth control.(1)

                                              –Margaret Sanger, Birth Control Review

                                              Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, has an ignoble legacy as a racist who addressed the Ku Klux Klan and initiated a Negro Project to reduce the population of poor, uneducated African Americans whom she considered unfit to reproduce themselves. This Margaret Sanger—the real Margaret Sanger—is completely whitewashed in Parenthood propaganda, which deceitfully portrays Sanger as a champion of reproductive “choice.”

                                              Even more incriminating than Sanger’s racism, however, is her close association with Nazism. Sanger was part of a community of American progressives who championed two remedies to get rid of “unfit” populations. The first was forced sterilization, which was Sanger’s preferred solution.

                                              Sanger wanted to make it look like the sterilizations were voluntary. In a 1932 article, Sanger called for women to be segregated from the larger community onto “farms and homesteads” where they would be “taught to work under competent instructors” and prevented from reproducing “for the period of their entire lives.” If the women didn’t want to live this way, they could get out of it by consenting to be sterilized.(2)

                                              The other progressive solution was “euthanasia,” which basically involved killing off the sick, the aged, and the physically and mentally disabled. One of Sanger’s colleagues, the California progressive Paul Popenoe, called for “lethal chambers” so that large numbers of “unfit” people could be systematically lined up and killed.(3)

                                              The Nazis learned about these American programs, and enthusiastically adopted them. As Edwin Black documents in his book The War Against the Weak, the Nazi sterilization law of 1933 and the subsequent Nazi euthanasia laws were both based on blueprints drawn up by Sanger, Popenoe and other American progressives.(4)

                                              In fact, the “lethal chambers” the Nazis employed using carbon monoxide gas to kill off “imbeciles” and other undesirables were the first death camps. Later these very facilities were expanded into Hitler’s “final solution” for the Jews, using many of the same medical personnel who manned the euthanasia killing facilities.

                                              Sanger’s close associates Clarence Gamble, who funded Sanger and spoke at her conferences, and Lothrop Stoddard, who published in Sanger’s magazine and served on the board of her American Birth Control League, both knew about the Nazi sterilization and euthanasia programs and praised them. Stoddard traveled to Germany where he met with top Nazi officials and even secured an audience with Hitler. His 1940 book Into the Darkness is a paean to Hitler and Nazi eugenics.(5)

                                              Sanger too was on board. In 1933, Sanger’s magazine Birth Control Review published an article on “Eugenic Sterilization” by Ernst Rudin, chief architect of the Nazi sterilization program and mentor of Josef Mengele, the notorious Nazi doctor at Auschwitz. Sanger’s magazine also reprinted a pamphlet that Rudin had prepared for British eugenicists.

                                              Writing in 1938, when the Nazi program was in full swing, Sanger urged America to follow Hitler’s example. Using the language of Social Darwinism—the same language that Hitler uses in Mein Kampf—Sanger wrote, “In animal industry, the poor stock is not allowed to breed. In gardens, the weeds are kept down.” America, Sanger concluded, must learn from the Nazis and carry out nature’s own mandate of getting rid of “human weeds.”(6)

                                              Hitler never quotes Margaret Sanger, but he was inspired by the writings of two of her associates, Leon Whitney of the American Eugenics Society and Madison Grant of the New York Zoological Society. During the 1930s, Whitney on one occasion visited Grant to proudly show him a letter he had just received from Hitler requesting a copy of Whitney’s book The Case for Sterilization.

                                              Not to be outdone, Grant pulled out his own letter from Hitler, which praised Grant for writing The Passing of the Great Race, a book Hitler called his eugenic “Bible.”(7) This incident shows how progressive eugenicists in America were well aware of their impact on Hitler and proud of their association with him.

                                              Another example of progressive enthusiasm for Hitler involves Charles Goethe, founder of the Eugenics Society of Northern California, who upon returning from a 1934 fact-finding trip to Germany, wrote a congratulatory letter to his fellow progressive Eugene Gosney, head of the San Diego-based Human Betterment Foundation.

                                              “You will be interested to know,” Goethe’s letter said, “that work has played a powerful part in shaping the opinions of the group of intellectuals who are behind Hitler in this epoch-making program. Everywhere I sensed that their opinions have been tremendously stimulated by American thought, and particularly by the work of the Human Betterment Foundation. I want you, my dear friend, to carry this thought with you for the rest of your life.”(8)

                                              If Planned Parenthood and the Left today want to get away from this sordid history, they must stop denying it. Rather, they should repudiate and distance themselves from Sanger and her fellow progressives, who were not only racial bigots but also inspired some of the worst atrocities of the twentieth century.


                                              (1) Cited by Richard Weikart, From Darwin to Hitler (New York: Palgrave Macmillan, 2004), 135.

                                              (2) Margaret Sanger, “My Way to Peace,” January 17, 1932, Margaret Sanger Papers,

                                              (3) Paul Popenoe and Roswell Hill, Applied Eugenics (New York: Macmillan, 1918), 180.

                                              (4) Edwin Black, The War Against the Weak (Washington, D.C.: Dialog Press, 2013), xvii, 258.

                                              (5) Ernst Rudin, “Eugenic Sterilization, an Urgent Need,” Birth Control Review, April 1933.

                                              (6) Margaret Sanger, “Human Conservation and Birth Control,” March 3, 1938 speech, Margaret Sanger Papers,

                                              (7) Cited by Black, The War Against the Weak, 270.

                                              (8) Cited by Stefan Kuhl, The Nazi Connection (New York: Oxford University Press, 1994), 36, 46.

                                              So who is the real racist? Nazi? Klan member?

                                              Learn from this history!

                                              Help educate our youth.

                                              Don’t be a useful idiot!

                                            • #79780
                                              Joe (G.W.N.S.)

                                                Some may already be familiar with this documentary, I just discovered it on Amazon Prime Video.

                                                Somewhat dated by current events it still provides some excellent background regarding the Socialists in the US.

                                                The Enemies Within website:

                                                “The Enemies Within” zooms in on the best-kept secret of modern politics. Almost no one is aware of the fact that fewer than 20,000 U.S. communists, socialists and extreme “progressives” are able to influence the politicians and even write the laws that control the lives of over 300 million Americans.

                                                First they infiltrated the unions…gaining full control in 1995. They then used the union money and leverage to purge the Democratic Party leadership of moderates and conservatives…replacing them with dozens of union and communist sympathizers.

                                                Next, they used their bought-and-paid-for-lackeys in the House of Representatives and the Senate to ram through a radical communist/union agenda. Purported Democrat policies such as “green jobs”, the insane New START Treaty with our so-called “partner” Russia, socialization of student loans, the massive easing of voting qualifications and consequent vote fraud bonanza, mass educational indoctrination, the gutting of the U.S. military, Harry Reid’s Senate “nuclear option” and, of course, both Obamacare and “immigration amnesty” all come directly from the union/communist playbook. While the economy implodes and the Republican hierarchy plays games, America’s tiny communist minority, aided by a cowardly and often complicit “mainstream media”, is tearing apart the greatest nation ever built on God’s Earth.

                                                At least 100 current members of the House of Representatives and 20 members of the U.S. Senate could not qualify to obtain a basic security clearance to clean the toilets at any military base in the nation…and neither could our President. It is shocking to know that many U.S. Congressmen are sympathetically and politically aligned with groups who owe their allegiance to the non-liberty loving countries of Russia, China, Cuba and Venezuela and even Iran and North Korea.

                                                While these enemies of America and their Islamic allies grow bolder and more aggressive, the Democratic Party is wrecking both the U.S. military and the economic prosperity needed to sustain it. President Reagan’s doctrine of “Peace Through Strength” has been abandoned. If America loses its strength, what will happen to our peace? How many more Americans will needlessly die because “The Enemies Within” that were elected have betrayed them?

                                                About Trevor Loudon:

                                                From Christchurch New Zealand, Trevor Loudon has been researching the radical left for more than 30 years.

                                                Trevor Loudon discovered the long-hidden relationship between notorious Hawaiian Communist Party member Frank Marshall Davis and the young Barack Obama in 2007.

                                                After extensively researching Obama’s ties to the New York and Chicago Marxist movements, Loudon began publishing his findings online, catching the eye of such prominent voices as Accuracy in Media and syndicated radio host Glenn Beck.

                                                In 2009 Loudon exposed the communist roots of Obama “Green Jobs Czar” Van Jones. After an extensive campaign by Glenn Beck and others, Jones was forced to resign from his White House position.

                                                Since 2011 Loudon has toured the United States promoting his two books “Barack Obama and the Enemies Within” and “The Enemies Within: Communists, Socialists and Progressives in the U.S. Congress” – an extensively footnoted expose of the rapidly unfolding Marxist takeover of the United States government.

                                                Loudon has addressed more than 400 conservative, tea party, religious and Republican groups in more than 37 states.

                                                Loudon has interviewed many people from both sides of the struggle over the years to former Western intelligence offices, to government undercover operatives inside the communist movement, to former KGB officers.

                                                This research has given Loudon unique insight into how extensively often miniscule communist parties have been able to manipulate, and even control policy formation in many Western countries – particularly the “main enemy:” the United States of America. Loudon’s research shows that this is not just a historical problem, but is a very grave and looming threat which will not only impact America’s national security but indeed her very survival.

                                              • #79781
                                                Joe (G.W.N.S.)

                                                  The following article comes from a site I monitor, but don’t normally use their articles. There is some good information that comes out of it, but it also contains some “fruit loop” stuff. So beware.

                                                  I include it here for the many examples of verifiable quotes and information offered in it’s entirety. Though I don’t agree with all conclusions.

                                                  Hitler’s ‘Brown Shirts’ Were Oddly Similar To Antifa’s Tactics And Methods Today- The Rise of Antifa Nazism

                                                  “I admit that I have always harbored an exaggerated view of self-importance — to put it bluntly, I fancied myself as some kind of god.” This opinion was confirmed in 1993, when George Soros told the British newspaper The Independent, “It is a sort of disease when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out.”

                                                  As the mainstream media becomes more militant as their influence over the American polulance wanes, they have spent over a year attempting to encourage Antifa groups violence by justifying and excusing their behavior with claims that Antifa groups are standing up against “White Supremacists,” while they label anyone that disagrees with their communist ideology and violent methods, as a “neo-nazi.”

                                                  The truth, in contrast, is that Antifa uses the same methods and tactics that Hitler’s “Brown Shirts” did.

                                                  ANTIFA USES ADOLPH HITLER & NAZI PARTY QUOTES & METHODS

                                                  Keeping in mind that Antifa uses violent methods to suppress free speech by conservatives for political purposes, which are fascist methods, and the same methods used by Hitler’s ‘Brown Shirts,’ while claiming to be anti-fascists, what is even more disturbing, heard in the video below is that an Antifa member, speaking to crowd which includes members (seen on the back of a shirt at the 7:36 minute mark), the speaker who claims to be a U.S. military veteran, directly quotes a number of statements to incite the crowd, to justify their “anti-capitalism” ideology.

                                                  The first quote the speaker reads off of his device, word for word, is “We are socialists. We are enemies, deadly enemies, of today’s capitalist economic system with its exploitation of the economically weak, its unfair wage system, its immoral way of judging the worth of human beings in terms of their wealth and their money, instead of their responsibility and their performance, and we are determined to destroy this system whatever happens!”

                                                  The quote itself is not surprising coming from a group that espouses communist, socialist, and anti-capitalism ideology, but what the speaker never bothered mentioning to the crowd, is that the quote is attributed Gregor Strasser, a prominent member of the Nazi party until he became a rival to Adolph Hitler and was murdered in 1934. (Some also attribute this quote to Hitler himself)

                                                  The next quotes the Antifa speaker uses are directly from Adolf Hitler, which includes “Benefit to the community precedes benefit to the individual. But the state should retain supervision and each property owner should consider himself appointed by the state. It is his duty not to use his property against the interests of others among his own people. This is the crucial matter.”

                                                  What the speaker left out of that quote, was the ending “The Third Reich will always retain the right to control the owners of property.” He begins the next quote, by neglecting to use the words “Third Reich” and instead replaces it with the “The “American Nation” will always retain its right to control to control the owners of property,” in an attempt to conflate Hitler’s terminology with American capitalism.

                                                  He then goes on to use six more Adolf Hitler quotes.

                                                  The referenced quotes above are spoken starting at the 7:48 minute mark in the video from SeekingThe Truth” below:


                                                  Anybody else think it is a little weird that a group of violent domestic terrorists like Antifa, that claim to be fighting against “white supremacy” and “neo-nazis,” actually uses Hitler and nazi rhetoric as part of their speeches?

                                                  Also note from the image above that the reversal of direction of the flag pointing left and the black color surrounding the flag, bringing to mind the old axiom “The fascists of the future will be called anti-fascists.”

                                                  THIS IS ALL BY DESIGN – MSM & THE RISE OF ANTIFA NAZISM

                                                  The rise of Antifa nazism coincides directly with the rise of Donald Trump during the primaries, when the media realized it had lost its influence on the general public as Republican primary opponent after opponent dropped out, leaving Donald Trump to become the Republican nominee. Antifa became more and more violent as the general election campaign kicked into high gear and the MSM, knowing their polls were skewed, and deliberately not informing the public of the very real “hatred” for Hillary Clinton they were seeing across America’s heartland, as was admitted by MSNBC’s Chuck Todd after the election, kicked their own propaganda campaign into high gear with justifications and excuses for Antifa violence.

                                                  Via Nick Nolte from Breitbart:

                                                  Before I get into the grit of the nit, it is important to keep in mind that our media is nothing more than the communication branch of the Democrat Party. When you look at everything the media does — the lying, the campaigns of personal destruction, the fake news, the focus on stuff like Melania’s shoes — this explanation is the only one that makes sense. The media is a full-blown leftwing political operation run, for the most part, by former Democrat operatives like Jake Tapper, George Stephanopolous, and Chuck Todd, as well as those related to Democrat operatives.

                                                  Knowing that, and knowing the long history of leftwing regimes (Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Chavez, Castro), we know what a leftwing political operation does when its influence begins to diminish. Because their ideas are so unappealing and are proven failures, the left ultimately has no choice but to embrace violence and censorship. This truth is as old as the Bolshevik Revolution, and this is exactly what we are seeing unfold today in our own country. Rather than politicians, though, it is our media that has turned dangerously militant.

                                                  Key quote from that article:

                                                  The violence comes, of course, from the media’s personal army of Brownshirts, the leftwing terrorists in Antifa. Just like Hitler’s henchmen, Antifa spreads out across the country to violently silence speech that the left does not want heard. And it is not only against neo-Nazis in Charlottesville. Almost all of the chaos, rioting, and violence waged by Antifa over the past two years has been against everyday Trump supporters, everyday Republicans.

                                                  While some in the MSM, and Democrats are attempting to temporarily distance themselves from Antifa groups after the very public display of violence in Berkeley recently that went mega-viral, they have managed in the last two years to facilitate their rise, and to strategically place them in a position where, when the time comes, they can create maximum carnage in their stated goal of “revolution.”

                                                  A LOOK INTO THE PAST SHOWS US WHAT THEY ARE PLANNING FOR OUR FUTURE

                                                  It is noteworthy that before Hitler’s rise to power, Germany was the worst hit economy after the economic collapse that began with the Wall Street stock market crash of October 1929, where unemployment, at its peak, to 29.9 percent in 1932. Many claim that without that economic collapse, Hitler would not have risen to power.

                                                  Hitler’s rise to power in Germany was about as directly Depression-related as any historical event can be. German industrial unemployment was even worse than in the United States. The conservative regime of Chancellor Bruning was hamstrung by international financial agreements and pursued budget-balancing at all costs, while doing little to provide relief for the unemployed. One of the chief factors making for Hitler’s success was the mass unemployment that occurred in Germany from 1929 onwards. ‘The number of able-bodied young men with nothing to do became delinquents and gangsters. The elderly honest folk were truly frightened of them, and it was easy for Hitler to raise the bogey of communism, and thus harness all these gangsters to the caterpillars of his Nazi panzers. He relieved unemployment at once by getting these Nibelung hordes to work on rearmament. By dressing his gangsters in uniforms, and thus giving them a semblance of Teutonic respectability, he was able to induce millions of Germans to revert to the regimentation of Prussian militarism.

                                                  Hitler achieved notable economic and diplomatic successes during the first five years of his rule. Hitler substantially revived the economy. Unemployment, so pivotal in bringing him to power, had dropped from 6 million to less than 1 million between 1933 and 1937, this at a time when the US was still wallowing in the Depression. National production and income doubled during the same period. This was partly owing to Hitler’s rearmament policy, but also to more benign forms of public spending. The world’s first major highway system, the autobahns, began snaking across the country, and there was talk of providing every citizen with a cheap, standardized car, the people’s car, or Volkswagen.

                                                  Present day here in America, jobs are up, unemployment is down, yet we see consistent warnings about economic woes coming, and with the gas prices rising and food shortages after Hurricane Harvey and another very strong hurricane headed toward the United States, it is easy to see how the “deep state” could very well crash the economy, and many believe they are planning to do just that when all the pieces are positioned exactly as they want them.

                                                  BOTTOM LINE

                                                  Once the media and the deep state lost control of the populace, they elevated their paramilitary arm, which was Antifa, now they can time their “crash” in order to blame President Trump, with their Antida nazis are already primed and ready to create maximum chaos and destruction across the nation, they even put a date on it, November 4, 2017, and then the Luciferian elite can present their “savior” to the nation, or as a friend phrased it earlier this morning, the “demonically infested entity of the hour,” their very own little “ant-Christ man of peace,” to save the day, the economy, the nation.

                                                  Keep your eye on the economy, the gas prices, food shortages, devastation from the hurricanes heading into November, because that November 4 date set by Soros funded Antifa groups for their nationwide terror attacks, may be the straw that breaks the economy’s back, all by design.

                                                  A reminder that George Soros actually collaborated with the Nazi’s by helping his guardian confiscate the property of Jews in Nazi Germany, which he admitted in a 1998 ’60 minutes’ interview. When asked about that time in his life, he makes it very clear that he has “no feelings of guilt” at all over it. (Video of the interview here, his lack of remorse stated at around the 8:30 minute mark) Further along in the interview he states he does not believe in God. In Soros’ 1987 book The Alchemy of Finance, he wrote “I admit that I have always harbored an exaggerated view of self-importance — to put it bluntly, I fancied myself as some kind of god.” This opinion was confirmed in 1993, when Soros told the British newspaper The Independent, “It is a sort of disease when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out.” (Source)

                                                  SOROS: It was actually probably the happiest year of my life, that year of German occupation. For me, it was a very positive experience. It’s a sage (ph) thing because you see incredible suffering around you and the fact you are in considerable danger yourself. But you’re 14 years old and you don’t believe that it can actually touch you. You have a belief in yourself. You have a belief in your father. It’s a very happy-making exhilarating experience.[EndSoros Clip]

                                                  This is the type of mindset of the man funding multiple Antifa groups, and attempting to overthrow the U.S. government.

                                                  We have seen many readers ask why Antifa groups picked that specific date and the answer may be that they didn’t, but their puppet masters did, because they are preparing to bring the whole system down in order to regain control.

                                                  Antifa are the modern day “brown shirts,” as the comparisons below are undeniable.

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                                                  Joe (G.W.N.S.)

                                                    Here is another video from Trevor Loudon that documents much of what I have been pointing out in these various Threads.

                                                  • #79783
                                                    Joe (G.W.N.S.)

                                                      Something not reported on and truly unappreciated is the close ties many of these groups have to North Korea (as reported in above video).

                                                      Consider the possible consequences this may have in the event of military conflict with North Korea. Which seems more likely as time goes on.

                                                      Also consider the Russian support of these radicals in light of this quote from Mikhail Gorbachev.

                                                      “Gentlemen, comrades, do not be concerned about all you hear about Glasnost and Perestroika and democracy in the coming years.

                                                      They are primarily for outward consumption.

                                                      There will be no significant internal changes in the Soviet Union, other than for cosmetic purposes.

                                                      Our purpose is to disarm the Americans and let them fall asleep.”

                                                      — Mikhail Gorbachev, 1989 address to Politburo

                                                    • #79784
                                                      Joe (G.W.N.S.)

                                                        Time for another look especially for newer members, if you do not have a handle on this information you will never understand what is truly going on.

                                                      • #79785
                                                        Joe (G.W.N.S.)

                                                          For those interested in this topic there is much intermingling in the Thread The Socialist Myth of Right-wing Dictatorships.

                                                        • #79786
                                                          Joe (G.W.N.S.)

                                                            Time for another look based on it’s relevance to Portland Riot discussion.

                                                          • #79787
                                                            Joe (G.W.N.S.)

                                                              Worth another look!

                                                            • #79788
                                                              Joe (G.W.N.S.)

                                                                Well it’s time for my yearly bump!

                                                                Again we are still victims to the Left’s 50 years of propaganda to convince the ignorant U.S. population that Leftwing violence and Racism is a product of the Right.

                                                                Now regarding the eco extremist El Paso Shooter, we are being told he is a Rightwing White Nationalist!


                                                                Because he allegedly agreed with President Trump on elements of the Illegal Alien issue.

                                                                Insanity! :wacko:

                                                                Obama deported around 3 million Illegal Aliens! Should we infer that Obama is a supporter of President Trump? …maybe President Trump idolizes Obama?

                                                                Well? :wacko:

                                                                Wake up and fight this propaganda, don’t except the Left’s narrative.

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