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    • #83480
      Chris
      Moderator

        Hey Guys,
        So one of the things we constantly address here at MVT is fitness and health. What good are you as Patriot of Freedom in the SHTF environment if all you’ve is eat poorly and let yourself go to the point that you need an extender for your battle belt..
        MVT has brought some instructors to the fold that are trained nutritionists and personal physical fitness trainers. Is your diet with restrictions but you need to cut weight? We can help!
        Do you live in the woods and theres no ‘globo-gym’ nearby so you have to get creative in a weekly workout regimen? We have that too! Did you get yourself a shiny new gym membership but have no idea how to put together a workout plan?
        Again we can help. So what i want to do firstly is just put the feelers out and see what kind of fitness and nutrition advice you guys on the forum are looking for and in the absence of any feedback will probably start posting some articles as well. If you are looking for something specifically tailor made for you just let us know and we will help you out. Too often training comes short at MVT because some people underestimated what the physical rigors of combat would entail, or what kind go food they needed to bring or acquire to keep them going through the weekend. Stay tuned for more soon!

        -C

      • #83481
        TC
        Participant

          Something on injury prevention or remediation could help. Sucks to have X weeks to get in shape and then blowing out a joint, muscle, or tendon and being set back by several weeks or even months. If that were during SHTF then it would be dire straits.

        • #83482
          wildbill
          Participant

            How about some fitness and nutrition ideas for those of us 50-60 and above that are still in fairly good shape considering but can’t run with the 20 somethings anymore but still want to stay in shape.

          • #83483
            farmer
            Participant

              This could be just the thing I was looking for. Also if feasible, some tips on dealing with prior existing injuries. i.e., From 1982 -2014 I raced & rode Motocross on a regular basis. No broken bones thankfully.
              1) Stretched left knee ligament 1982 Only ambulance ride
              2) Separated right shoulder Early 90’s
              3) Sprained both ankles same time late 80’s
              4) Sprained right hip Early 2000’s
              5) Torn labrum left shoulder mid 2000’s operated on December 2008
              Various brain rattlers

              I feel like the left shoulder injury holds me back when trying to do pullups/pushups. gets weak real fast. The left knee will go out all of a sudden sometimes even at a walking pace. It doesn’t last long , but is always on my mind.

              I am sure alot of us have high school/college/work related injuries also that are still nagging.

              farmer

              Edit: 50 year old here also

            • #83484
              xsquidgator
              Participant

                I’d appreciate any information or advice about nutrition. Like a lot of guys here, I’m no spring chicken anymore and I work in a white collar environment where all too often lunch is fast food or some crap. My doctor says I’m in excellent health (age 50) and I’m in good condition for a 50 year old but looking to improve that to Rifleman Challenge levels if I can do it without injury.

                Recommendations perhaps for what you’d be bringing or buying for lunch, if you were in these shoes? Any particular nutritional supplements other than multivitamin?

              • #83485
                Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                Moderator

                  I think there is a trend here, since many of us are getting older, particularly by military standards.

                  So anything tailored to from getting in shape, to maintaining what is a high fitness level while staying injury free at the older age bracket seems prudent.

                  I somewhat recently hurt my Achilles tendon which has set me back. So how to modify your diet when injured to avoid weight gain while recovering could help. Seems easy enough to just reduce intake, but professional guidance couldn’t hurt.

                • #83486
                  lucky_luke
                  Participant

                    Well unlike the prior answers, I am only 26 yrs old, run 4 days a week, do strength training 4 days a week. My problem is that I’m over weight. I definitely fall under the category of needing nutritional advice.

                  • #83487
                    trailman
                    Participant

                      Well unlike the prior answers, I am only 26 yrs old, run 4 days a week, do strength training 4 days a week. My problem is that I’m over weight. I definitely fall under the category of needing nutritional advice.

                      Ill trade your age vs overweight to my age and worn down, lol.

                      @Chris I’m 52 and slowly working my way back, three steps forward two steps back. Ran all last year until I pulled a muscle I’m still working on. A program needs to address us geezers. :cry:

                    • #83488
                      The Hobbit
                      Participant

                        Well unlike the prior answers, I am only 26 yrs old, run 4 days a week, do strength training 4 days a week. My problem is that I’m over weight. I definitely fall under the category of needing nutritional advice.

                        Same here on age. I fall under the category of living in the sticks with no easy/convenient gym access. Si any work outs routines that suit are appreciated.
                        Are Max & hunters tax fitness programs still available as I was planning ob investing in that. Anything nutrion related is also muy burning.

                      • #83489
                        Mike Q
                        Participant

                          The fitness programs are still available. I’m doing one right now.

                        • #83490
                          Chris
                          Moderator

                            Good feedback from you guys. Understand nutrition and being able to get physical training even in our later years or after injuries is a struggle and some of you are looking for help. Will get some literature and articles out to you guys and if anyone has any very specific needs we can take a look at that as well…..keep the ideas coming please….

                          • #83491
                            wheelsee
                            Participant

                              From very active field work (EMS, firefighter, SWaT) now to working inside a busy Level I trauma center with long hours and multiple back-to-back shifts (think 2-4 days off per month, with multiple nights interspersed)…… so some sort of routine (regimen might’ve a better word as there is nothing routine here) would be appreciated when there are NO set days…I do run the stairs several times a shift…. and, yes, in my 50s

                            • #83492
                              Andrew
                              Participant

                                Got a copy of Tactical Fitness from Amazon in the mail today. 252 pages of what looks to be pretty good stuff.

                              • #83493
                                farmer
                                Participant

                                  Got a copy of Tactical Fitness from Amazon in the mail today. 252 pages of what looks to be pretty good stuff.

                                  Who is the author? There are a couple different ones listed

                                  farmer

                                  edit: looks like Stewart Smith. Page count listed as 272. Is this correct?

                                • #83494
                                  The Hobbit
                                  Participant

                                    Got a copy of Tactical Fitness from Amazon in the mail today. 252 pages of what looks to be pretty good stuff.

                                    Happily take a review on if it’s any good.

                                  • #83495
                                    diomedes
                                    Participant

                                      You don’t lose weight through exercise. A ton of literature on that. Great recent science and nature article on that topic.
                                      Here is a cut from it:
                                      https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/jan/28/study-reveals-that-exercise-alone-wont-cause-weight-loss
                                      Its not very effective.
                                      You lose weight by eating less.
                                      You exercise for the other health benefits.

                                      Eat less move more.
                                      My patients always seem surprised by this fact….

                                      For the old folks, invest in a Polar Care cube. Its a god send.

                                      Polar Care Cube™

                                      RICE those injures……

                                    • #83496
                                      Andrew
                                      Participant

                                        Who is the author? There are a couple different ones listed

                                        farmer

                                        edit: looks like Stewart Smith. Page count listed as 272. Is this correct?

                                        It is Stewart Smith. I didn’t count the front few pages and index nor the last 3 propaganda pages. Soft cover book, mostly pictures of a bunch of exercises and some fitness plans.

                                      • #83497
                                        Chris
                                        Moderator

                                          not to get too far down the rabbit hole but eating less is not the end all to losing weight. More often than not my clients need to eat MORE to begin a weight loss program because their nutrition is so poor that their body has no choice but to store the food it gets and not properly process nutrients from each meal. This mainly applies to the very busy 9-5 with kids people that never get a chance to eat. Blows their mind when i tell them to eat more!

                                        • #83498
                                          farmer
                                          Participant

                                            @ Chris, any updates to this?

                                            farmer

                                          • #83499
                                            JohnnyMac
                                            Participant

                                              @ Chris, any updates to this?

                                              farmer

                                              I think Chris might be preoccupied right now. If you have specific questions or looking for guidance, I’m happy to help.

                                            • #83500
                                              farmer
                                              Participant

                                                Thanks Johnnymac. Question on Lactic acid buildup.
                                                1st day after fresh training regimen, lactic acid build up in legs. Wait a day to allow legs to recover or work them right away?
                                                Cardio style workout, not weights. Lunges , sprints, farmers carry type.

                                              • #83501
                                                JohnnyMac
                                                Participant

                                                  So, lactic acid, while an actual biological compound, is widely misunderstood. Here’s a decent article about that:
                                                  https://www.si.com/edge/2016/07/21/debunking-myths-lactic-acid-truth-fatigue-recovery-muscle-soreness

                                                  What you are probably experiencing is delayed onset muscle soreness (DOMS). Here’s a quick read on that:
                                                  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/12617692/

                                                  In short, it’s normal, you can still exercise if the soreness isn’t too debilitating, but tone down the intensity of you do, to allow your muscles to recovery. Recovery is also impacted by age/metabolism/sleep quality/diet/fitness level/etc. Also, gradually increase volume or intensity of workouts. Too much or too soon can cause injury, there are diminishing returns, as you take on more and more than your current fitness level. “Overdo-ing it” could lead to longer than optimal recovery times, hindering overall progress.

                                                  Let me know if you have further questions

                                                • #83502
                                                  lucky_luke
                                                  Participant

                                                    Farmer, alot of people notice that if they do cardio in the same day that they do strength training (specifically legs) they will not be as sore and their legs will recover faster. I know im not Johnny mac but ive been incorporating this into my gym time and its been very helpful. If you like reading about this k8nda stuff, you should check out yhe book bigger leaner stronger by michael matthews. Its a pretty good book and he presents the info in very easy to understand terms. Its helped me immensely in my fitness journey.

                                                  • #83503
                                                    farmer
                                                    Participant

                                                      Thanks JM & LL. Will look into the book.

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