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    • #123975
      Joe (G.W.N.S.)
      Moderator

        This will be a Pistol shoot requiring 50 rounds.

        Dot Torture

        At 3 yards.
        You have to get all 50 hits to pass.

        Dot 1 – Draw and fire one string of 5 rounds for best group. One hole if possible, total 5 rounds.

        Dot 2 – Draw and fire 1 shot, holster and repeat X4, total 5 rounds.

        Dots 3 & 4 – Draw and fire 1 shot on #3, then 1 shot on #4, holster and repeat X3, total 8 rounds.

        Dot 5 – Draw and fire string of 5 rounds, strong hand only, total 5 rounds.

        Dots 6 & 7 – Draw and fire 2 shots on #6, then 2 on #7, holster, repeat X4, total 16 rounds.

        Dot 8 – From ready or retention, fire five shots, weak hand only, total 5 rounds.

        Dots 9 & 10 – Draw and fire 1 shot on #9, speed reload, fire 1 shot on #10, holster and repeat X3, total 6 rounds.

        The attached PDF is the target.

        I recommend using your carry pistol and to shoot this cold. By cold I mean no warm up, no practice. This isn’t as easy as it may appear. Also if your like me and shoot a DA/SA don’t skip the Double Action first shot after each re-holster.

        Besides fun this should be good indicator of your status. B-)

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      • #124056
        Joe (G.W.N.S.)
        Moderator

          I am out! :yes:

          I did my normal morning routine, went outback and shot it cold, no practice before.

          Beretta M9 with G conversion. Winchester white box 115 grain FMJ 9mm.

          Target pre-shoot.

          Results…

          Called flyer on #6 and I am out. :cry:

          I’ll let First Sergeant rule whether the rounds that broke outer circles would have counted.

          Can you do better! B-)

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        • #124064
          Joe (G.W.N.S.)
          Moderator

            It’s funny, I posted this on IG and it disappeared. So I removed “Dot Torture” and it reappeared! :-)

          • #124074
            SeanT
            Keymaster

              1st Sergeant is smiling…

            • #124122
              Joe (G.W.N.S.)
              Moderator

                My emphasis on shooting such drills cold is because I consider them to be an assessment of my status.

                I don’t base my skill level on my peak performance, but my lowest performance. Obviously this identified a fundamental weakness in my routine practice.

                I’ve seen too many online that practice a single drill to perfection. Change up the drill and they falter. I need to practice the fundamentals in a variety of conditions, not just environmental, but my physical condition as well.

                So when I am tired, had a bad day, have a headache, etc…

                Why?

                Because bad things don’t just happen when I am at peak performance! :yes:

                Note: Use some uncommon sense with above. Don’t shoot if your potentially dangerous.

              • #124223
                JohnnyMac
                Participant

                  Done cold

                  • This reply was modified 3 months ago by JohnnyMac.
                • #124229
                  JohnnyMac
                  Participant

                    Trouble posting picture…

                  • #124232
                    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                    Moderator

                      Done cold

                      Well at least your groups are more consistent than mine. ;-)

                    • #124236
                      JohnnyMac
                      Participant

                        Well at least

                        An RDS equipped glock 19.

                        The RDS, with some practice, is pretty amazing. I would go so far as to say it makes a BIGGER difference on a pistol than on a rifle.

                      • #124279
                        Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                        Moderator

                          Ok I got First Sergeant’s on the outer rings!

                          If it touches the line it is a good shot.

                          If it breaks the line, it’s a miss.

                          B-)

                        • #124471
                          Civilianresponder
                          Participant

                            Done cold. My one handed groups are pretty awful. This is something I have been working on to improve every range trip.

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                          • #124534
                            Socks
                            Participant

                              Here is mine, I suck lol. Gives me some things i really need to work on. Dropped shots as I transitioned and left hand shooting was atrocious.

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                              • #124536
                                Socks
                                Participant

                                  And for some reason it says that my file is too large to upload?

                                  • #124538
                                    JohnnyMac
                                    Participant

                                      The only way I was able to get my picture up was to post privately to FB, then use that image link to post here.

                                  • #124548
                                    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                    Moderator

                                      There is a usable image, somewhat improvised. ;-)

                                  • #124537
                                    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                    Moderator

                                      The file must be under 1 MB.

                                      Use the link from your IG post and post it here.

                                      When I take pictures specifically for use here I change settings to a low quality to decrease size. As long as it’s usable we don’t need High res images for most puposes.

                                    • #124596
                                      dave37
                                      Participant

                                        Dammit!

                                        HEAT 1 2017
                                        Intro to CQB 2017
                                        Texas HEAT 2 2018
                                        Operation TeaSinker 2019
                                        Combat Leader Course 2019
                                        Team Coyote
                                        Team Rekkr
                                        Team Cowbell

                                      • #124629
                                        farmer
                                        Participant

                                          I’m having trouble getting the target picture to computer. So…:

                                          #1 All hits inside circle
                                          #2 4 hits inside circle, 1 hit Outside circle at 5 O’clock
                                          #3 3 hits inside, 1 hit outside at 12:30 just barely touched outside of black border. I call miss
                                          #4 4 hits inside circle
                                          #5 1 hit inside circle, 1 hit broke border, 1 hit barely nicked black border-miss,2 solid miss
                                          #6 6 hits in circle, 1 miss, 1 broke black border, but not good enough for hit- miss
                                          #7 7 hits inside circle, 1 miss
                                          #8 5 hits inside circle
                                          #9 2 hits, 1 miss
                                          #10 3 hits

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                                        • #125132
                                          Robert Henry
                                          Participant

                                            Not my best day of pistol shooting….

                                            And I’m beginning to see why 1st Sargent said “those suppressor height sights aren’t all that great.”

                                            First pic mostly right handed, Glock 19 with the Trijicon suppressor high sights.

                                            Second pic is all left handed except the “off hand” dot- Glock 17 with standard sights.

                                            I didn’t print enough of these, so I shot the 2nd run on the same paper….

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                                            www.jrhenterprises.com

                                            Lost my MVT class list- been here a time or two :)
                                            Team Coyote. Rifleman Challenge- Vanguard

                                          • #125135
                                            Robert Henry
                                            Participant

                                              But to try to redeem myself a bit, I did shoot the marked group with an M and P 15 at 100 yards.
                                              So I can kinda shoot an AR, and I experienced the first serious jam with this one today also. A nasty double feed. First one in that rifle though, so already light years ahead of my previous AR experiences.

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                                              Lost my MVT class list- been here a time or two :)
                                              Team Coyote. Rifleman Challenge- Vanguard

                                            • #125321
                                              Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                              Moderator

                                                Well I guess we’ll revisit this drill at some point.

                                                I plan on using this as a periodic check myself drill, but I will not be practicing it.

                                                My goal is not to get good at any specific drill. My interpretation of my results suggest I need more emphasis on fundamentals of pistol.

                                                Thank you for all those that have participated!

                                                I hope this was as beneficial to you as it was for me.

                                                Others can feel free to post their results at any time, no such thing as a dead thread here at MVT Forum.

                                              • #125362
                                                Civilianresponder
                                                Participant

                                                  Thanks for putting this out there Joe. :good:

                                                • #125394
                                                  First Sergeant
                                                  Moderator

                                                    Well I guess we’ll revisit this drill at some point.

                                                    I plan on using this as a periodic check myself drill, but I will not be practicing it.

                                                    My goal is not to get good at any specific drill. My interpretation of my results suggest I need more emphasis on fundamentals of pistol.

                                                    Thank you for all those that have participated!

                                                    I hope this was as beneficial to you as it was for me.

                                                    Others can feel free to post their results at any time, no such thing as a dead thread here at MVT Forum.

                                                    To emphasize what Joe is saying here. Don’t get stuck practicing one drill. You then become good at that one drill. Use this as a check on where you are at with your skills.

                                                    FILO
                                                    Signal Out, Can You Identify
                                                    Je ne regrette rien
                                                    In Orbe Terrum Non Visi

                                                  • #128406
                                                    dave37
                                                    Participant

                                                      Resurrecting this thread because I just figured out how to post my target.

                                                      Damn left handed shooting…

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                                                      HEAT 1 2017
                                                      Intro to CQB 2017
                                                      Texas HEAT 2 2018
                                                      Operation TeaSinker 2019
                                                      Combat Leader Course 2019
                                                      Team Coyote
                                                      Team Rekkr
                                                      Team Cowbell

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