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    • #142855
      Max
      Keymaster

        Starting this thread as a place for information and analysis of what is ACTUALLY happening as a result of COVID-19.

        Medical
        Travel
        Restrictions
        Economic
        Stock Market

        Etc.

        This isn’t about what we don’t know or can only surmise, but what information we can gather. Analysis and projections would be really useful also.

      • #142871
        Robert Henry
        Participant

          Dow closed down over 2,000 points. WTI and Brent Crude down yuge as well, but a lot of that because of Saudi/Russian price war. Gas should get a little cheaper soon.

          Both of these will have trickle down effects.

          www.jrhenterprises.com

          Lost my MVT class list- been here a time or two :)
          Team Coyote. Rifleman Challenge- Vanguard

        • #142876
          Civilianresponder
          Participant

            Extreme toilet paper shortage in Austin and other parts of the country. Along with paper towels, rice, hand sanitizer, cleaning and disinfecting supplies.

          • #142882
            The Librarian
            Participant

              Hand sanitizer is unobtanium, probably due to the fact that there are two confirmed cases in my county. Clorox wipes in very short supply. TP and bottled water are beginning to be in short supply. Fulton County (Atlanta) schools closing due to teacher with a positive test.

            • #142890
              Short Stroke
              Participant

                The Peak Prosperity site has daily updates with pretty reliable information. Instead of pasting it all here, I recommend checking that site out. Here is their projection based on the rate of infection:

                “At the current rate of spread, conservative math calculates that by May, the current US covid-19 case count of 361 infected will jump to *4+ million*.

                That is the power of exponential growth.”

              • #142893
                AntMan
                Participant

                  Most major technology companies are having all employees work from home. A fair number of banks are doing so as well.

                  2xcqbc
                  1xclc

                • #142900
                  idahocajun
                  Participant

                    Idaho has been fun, especially with the cases in Seattle. Costco is rationing toilet paper. I’ve been through tons of hurricanes, all the big Cat 5’s and never once was there a run on TP. Now beer and bread…don’t mess with Cajuns!

                    From a medical standpoint, Idaho has 0 confirmed cases. Our hospital has implemented triage protocols, PPE, etc. Common sense stuff. Contingency plans and surge plans are ready to go if needed.

                    Personally, I’m more concerned about economic impact, local supply chain with the hysteria. The virus isn’t a joke nor something to take lightly. But common sense shit like hand washing, sleep and risk mitigation just like with flu will keep exposure down. Unfortunately, I’m on the front lines…

                  • #142926
                    Anonymous
                    Inactive

                      Italy is under full quarantine.

                      Went to Wal-Mart just for some basic grocery shopping. There was still a couple packs of toilet paper, so we could get some (not panic buying on our end, we were just out), but mostly wiped out. Maybe America will have to finally embrace the hand wipe like other cultures do. ;-)

                      Didn’t check hand sanitizer or other supplies.

                      Was at work two nights ago, some girl was emotionally wrecked carrying like eight bags of toilet paper and other essentials, called her a taxi since her phone died and she couldn’t contact her room mates to pick her up, she was completely freaking out about COVID-19, she was going on about how she’d never seen people so worried about a sickness before, tried my best to talk her down from her hysteria.

                      A couple cases here in Maryland but haven’t heard of any fatalities here.

                      Agreed, I’m more concerned about the hysteria and the fallout from that than the disease itself, between it and now the stock market freakout over oil prices.

                    • #142927
                      trailman
                      Participant
                      • #142975
                        SeanT
                        Keymaster

                          We are ramping up to begin teleworking operations. We have a good head start on this because we have been doing it for years but the volumes of people will go up and the hardware and software will be taxed pretty hard. In general, the Internet will get a stress test with the combination of telework over VPN ( more traffic than outside VPN), people ‘social distancing and binge streaming movies, and of course propagating poorly vetted information on social media. We went thru this drill during SARS and MERS but the world has changed a lot since then. If you can’t find hand sanitizer, go for the isopropyl rubbing alcohol and a spray bottle. Pool shock can be used to make a disinfectant solution to clean surfaces if you can’t find the prepackaged wipes. The primary thing is avoid panic, take the precautions well known for infection control and check on those most at-risk in your circle of friends and family to ensure they are well if they could have had some exposure to a carrier.

                        • #143002
                          Max
                          Keymaster

                            You can only hope that something in this analysis is wrong. If not, then we are at that collapse / reset we have all been talking about:

                            Coronavirus- Blunt Truth (Part 2, Hitting the Wall)

                          • #143003
                            MarkA
                            Participant

                              Dell is instructing employees worldwide to work from home, in addition, Samsung is instructing all employees to work from home, required for employees in Cali. Received word of this today from brother who works at Dell and sister in law.

                            • #143006
                              SeanT
                              Keymaster

                                BEWARE!!!!!!! PAY ATTENTION TO THIS!!
                                There is a FAKE version of the Hopkins University covid-19 map. If you browse to the page, you will be infected with the AZORult Trojan which is an info stealing malware.

                                The FAKE site URL is corona-virus-map[.]com

                                This link is being spread via spambots sending emails with links, malicious ads, and other various social engineering techniques.

                              • #143007
                                Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                Moderator

                                  BEWARE!!!!!!! PAY ATTENTION TO THIS!!
                                  There is a FAKE version of the Hopkins University covid-19 map. If you browse to the page, you will be infected with the AZORult Trojan which is an info stealing malware.

                                  The FAKE site URL is corona-virus-map[.]com

                                  This link is being spread via spambots sending emails with links, malicious ads, and other various social engineering techniques.

                                  Quoted for emphasis!

                                  Thanks for this SeanT :good:

                                • #143008
                                  trailman
                                  Participant

                                    And yet I read that the guy who came down with the first case I’m WA is almost recovered

                                  • #143015
                                    gatlinggun
                                    Participant

                                      My wife told me today that she read that the Ohio State University in Columbus has suspended classes until the end of March.

                                      Can anyone confirm this?

                                    • #143020
                                      Lloyd
                                      Participant

                                        Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai, MIT PhD in Biological Engineering, has some interesting stuff to say about COVID-19…

                                        Same guy said this, TODAY:

                                        Dr.SHIVA Ayyadurai, MIT PhD. Inventor of Email

                                        @va_shiva

                                        As an MIT PhD in Biological Engineering who studies & does research nearly every day on the Immune System, the #coronavirus fear mongering by the Deep State will go down in history as one of the biggest fraud to manipulate economies, suppress dissent, & push MANDATED Medicine!

                                        MVT Texas 2015-2020
                                        Team Cowbell / Team Coyote / Team Rekkr

                                      • #143033
                                        SeanT
                                        Keymaster

                                          My wife told me today that she read that the Ohio State University in Columbus has suspended classes until the end of March.

                                          Can anyone confirm this?

                                          cannot confirm OSU but many universities are having students not return to campus after the spring break and will begin to stream lectures For classes using collaboration software tools like Zoom or webex. Harvard, Princeton, and Columbia are a few I am aware of.

                                        • #143036
                                          veritas556
                                          Participant

                                            Yup, OSU has cancelled on in-person classes and labs until March 30th. The kids are on Spring Break this week and they probably believe someone will likely bring the virus back. The real stupidity? Some 20,000 kids are going to be packed into their dorms (all freshman and sophomore at OSU) day and night. Seems like a great plan. :wacko:

                                          • #143037
                                            idahocajun
                                            Participant

                                              FWIW:

                                              Big hospital meeting today, Covid was addressed, here are some points I gleaned:

                                              1. Idaho, Wyoming and Montana have 0 confirmed cases, however we are surrounded by states that have declared states of emergency, take it FWIW.
                                              2. NO DEATHS under the age of 10. Under the age of 20, <1%. However, mortality among positive tested individuals is 2-3% at age 50 and doubles with each decade, 60= 4-6%, etc. however, in South Korea, asymptomatic testing shows its actually 0.5-1% even in 60+.
                                              3. No treatment
                                              4. Disease has 2 phases, phase 1 is upper respiratory and MOST get better. 20% go on to develop phase 2 at 5-7 days which is the lower respiratory stuff. 1-3% mortality.
                                              5. Current data shows it is NOT spread by air, but by droplet. Problem is it can survive on surfaces for up to 5 days.
                                              6. Easily killed with basic cleaners, Lysol, etc.
                                              More to come as it it’s available. Our system is in full react phase. Actively keeping these folks separated and masked on arrival, etc.

                                            • #143048
                                              D Close
                                              Moderator

                                                Some airlines have cut schedules through May 20% international and 10% domestically. Manpower being cut through attrition and voluntary leaves. Hiring frozen. Cancellation for travel without penalties. Higher cleaning standards for airplanes between flights.

                                                There was a near riot on a flight from DEN to EWR that resulted in a divert due to a coughing passenger.

                                                All flights to China are suspended ufn.

                                                Level 3 travel warnings
                                                https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/after-travel-precautions.html

                                                There are now 2 COVID19 cases in Virginia Beach. These folks were on a Egypt Nile cruise. Unknown who they may have contacted before they went to hospital.

                                                Shortages in SE VA include sanitzer, toilet paper in bulk, isopropyl alcohol.

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                                              • #143089
                                                Max
                                                Keymaster

                                                  Educate yourself rationally. Denial is not a course of action. That does not include panic, but it includes a dose of reality. If you can’t understand that we are only at the very beginning of the COVID-19 epidemic, then I cannot help you. Lot’s of potential fallout, including to the economy.

                                                • #143100
                                                  D Close
                                                  Moderator

                                                    Long term emergency food options from vendors are very limited right now. Ready Made Resources freeze dried are backordered for an extended period and orders are not being accepted.

                                                    A note: We need about 63,000 calories per person per month. For those of you new to prepping, ignore the number of servings except to calculate total calories available. A family of four needs over 1.5 million calories for 6 months.

                                                  • #143201
                                                    D Close
                                                    Moderator

                                                      Per POTUS, as of midnight Friday, all European travel to the US will be halted. There are exceptions for Americans returning home and they will be screened. There is also a UK exemption. This will have deep impacts on international carriers and many cities across the world.

                                                      VA colleges just pulled the tent down. VT, JMU and UVA all canceling on-campus class activities at least through April 5th.

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                                                    • #143210
                                                      Hessian
                                                      Participant

                                                        This sounds promising… using a malaria drug called chloroquine phospate in around 500 MG doses to force Zinc into your cells and cause the disruption of RNA Polymerase also known as a replicase.

                                                      • #143236
                                                        Tony S
                                                        Participant

                                                          GMU (George Mason University) in Fairfax VA is extending spring break 1 week for normal classes (not already tele/remote classes and not law school.) Beginning afterward all classes will be remote classes. Law school immediately to start remote classes. Residence halls to remain OPEN, but students encouraged to avoid campus.

                                                          NASA Ames facility in California operating under mandatory telework since beginning of the week. Per information from a town hall event, NASA making decision day-to-day about other sites. A confirmed case on a site will trigger mandatory telework. Also “sufficient community cases” in the area around a center may trigger mandatory telework for a center.

                                                          NOAA conducting an agency wide telework day to test if they’re able to conduct business or not. (NASA conducted a similar drill last Friday.)

                                                        • #143240
                                                          Robert Henry
                                                          Participant

                                                            Oil prices still dropping. If I had a guess I would say we could see $20. a barrel??

                                                            www.jrhenterprises.com

                                                            Lost my MVT class list- been here a time or two :)
                                                            Team Coyote. Rifleman Challenge- Vanguard

                                                          • #143244
                                                            Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                            Moderator

                                                              Oil prices still dropping. If I had a guess I would say we could see $20. a barrel??

                                                              Good time to stock up! ;-)

                                                            • #143246
                                                              Socks
                                                              Participant

                                                                Speaking from a retail perspective this is getting insane. I work for a large midwestern superstore company and we are having serious issues keeping toilet paper in stock. Hand sanitizer and cleaning wipes are of course long gone. Yesterday was so busy we did the same business on the slowest day of the week as on the busiest and this morning when I left it looked like the day before Christmas.

                                                              • #143257
                                                                Mike Q
                                                                Participant

                                                                  Virginia Tech has stopped all in person classes for the rest of the semester. All of their classes will be via online.

                                                                  Loudoun County Public School system in Northern Virginia shutdown all schools effective at 5:00 am this morning until at least March 20th.

                                                                • #143291
                                                                  Max
                                                                  Keymaster

                                                                    People fighting in the aisles in Costco Manassas. Not sure exactly over what. Cop cars all in the parking lot.

                                                                    Walmart Warrenton, no fighting, but all out of cleaning supplies.

                                                                  • #143296
                                                                    Spencer
                                                                    Participant

                                                                      The governor of Ohio has extended Spring Break for all schools by 1 week. So all K-12 schools in Ohio will be closed for the next three weeks.

                                                                      NOAA conducting an agency wide telework day to test if they’re able to conduct business or not. (NASA conducted a similar drill last Friday.)

                                                                      The Defence Logistics Agency (DLA) has just implemented a mandatory Telework-Tuesday for next Tuesday to test our capacity. Luckily for me, I already work 100% remotely, and my wife works from home.

                                                                      DCH 10/2019
                                                                      H.E.A.T. 1 12/2019

                                                                    • #143297
                                                                      Max
                                                                      Keymaster

                                                                        Virginia is apparently now in a State of Emergency. That may be fake news…anyone confirm?

                                                                      • #143298
                                                                        Spencer
                                                                        Participant

                                                                          Virginia is apparently now in a State of Emergency. That may be fake news…anyone confirm?

                                                                          Yep. https://www.virginia.gov/

                                                                          DCH 10/2019
                                                                          H.E.A.T. 1 12/2019

                                                                        • #143300
                                                                          evig1
                                                                          Participant

                                                                            Ohio governor declared state of emergency over 3 confirmed cases.
                                                                            Today, he requested all K – 12 public and private schools in the state to be on “spring break” for the next 3 weeks.
                                                                            Most colleges shut down too.
                                                                            Also, all meetings of 100 or more people strongly discouraged. Many churches shutting down for next 3 weeks also.
                                                                            Toilet paper is practically non-existant. Can’t order online or find in most stores. Huge run on all staple food, water, and paper products.
                                                                            Long lines at all stores.
                                                                            It’s getting a little messy here.

                                                                          • #143303
                                                                            Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                            Moderator

                                                                              2019 Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19)
                                                                              as of 2:49 p.m. ET 3/12/2020

                                                                              Positive Cases of COVID-19

                                                                              27 – Florida Residents
                                                                              5 – Florida Cases Repatriated*
                                                                              3 – Non-Florida Residents

                                                                              Deaths

                                                                              2 – Florida Residents

                                                                              Number of Negative Test Results

                                                                              301

                                                                              Number of Pending Test Results

                                                                              147

                                                                              Number of People Under Public Health Monitoring

                                                                              476 – currently being monitored
                                                                              1230 – people monitored to date

                                                                              Positive Test: A positive test is when a sample sent to the state health lab comes back positive for COVID-19.

                                                                              *Florida Cases Repatriated: The United States Department of State officially coordinated the return of a person living in Florida to the United States and those persons are isolated at a federally designated site until healthy. A repatriated case is when the United States Department of State officially coordinates the return of a Florida resident to the United States.

                                                                              Negative Test Result: A negative test result is when a sample sent to the state health lab comes back negative for COVID-19.

                                                                              Pending Test Result: A pending test result is when a sample sent to the state health lab has not been declared positive or negative at the time.

                                                                              People Under Public Health Monitoring: The number of people under public health monitoring includes those at risk of having been exposed to COVID-19 who are monitoring their health under the supervision of public health officials.

                                                                            • #143307
                                                                              JeffSags
                                                                              Participant

                                                                                Joe, are you a coronavirus denier?

                                                                              • #143309
                                                                                veritas556
                                                                                Participant

                                                                                  Those of you who thought this was a big “nothing burger” better get ready to eat. As I said weeks ago, the 2nd, 3rd and 4th order effects from this thing will be far worse than the thing itself. The gov’t and media is driving the response into ludicrous speed. This has been the danger all along. And we’re all about to taste it. The numbers are relative.

                                                                                  Cui bono?

                                                                                  • #143314
                                                                                    Max
                                                                                    Keymaster

                                                                                      Yep. It’s absolutely definitely happening as we feared.

                                                                                      Virus itself: in terms of cases, we are just at the beginning of this so all comparisons to the flu etc are pointless.

                                                                                      And, the real effects are to the economy and panic, alongside or accompanying the market crash and petroleum war.

                                                                                      Any concerns about how dangerous or not the actual virus is are irrelevant given what is actually happening.

                                                                                      But jUSt wASH yOuR haNDS, iT’s JuSt tHe FlU.

                                                                                  • #143313
                                                                                    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                    Moderator

                                                                                      …are you a coronavirus denier?

                                                                                      No, but the numbers do not match the hype.

                                                                                      Slightly over 7,000 Americans die on average daily.

                                                                                      For COVID-19 to just get into the top ten CDC reported causes of death would require more than 128 deaths daily.

                                                                                      So while COVID-19 is a public health threat; particularly for those with respiratory issues, I do not have sufficient evidence to validate current reaction.

                                                                                      At the least this is being used as a political tool, at worst this incitement of fear could lead to economic collapse globally.

                                                                                      As I have stated repeatedly since this Forums creation our economic collapse has been just a matter of when, not if. The only way we avoid this is by another equally devastating event happening first.

                                                                                      So again as a worst case this political manipulation of this relatively minor as yet outbreak could lead to the intentional/unintentional economic collapse.

                                                                                      I do not believe this would happen with just disruption of Chinese goods, yes such disruption would have an negative impact economically.

                                                                                      This alone would not be enough to bring on such a dire collapse IMHO.

                                                                                      However add a fearful population and media propaganda and this maybe sufficient to collapse our house of cards economy.

                                                                                      If this happens it will not be the result of COVID-19, but intentional/unintentional consequences.

                                                                                      Of course many “black swan” events are possible related to this manipulation.

                                                                                      That said, I do not believe COVID-19 is capable of causing this without manipulation of facts. Many are constantly bringing up various numerical order effects as a fear, but there is a difference between natural and manipulated effects.

                                                                                    • #143315
                                                                                      JeffSags
                                                                                      Participant

                                                                                        That’s exactly what a coronavirus denier would say.

                                                                                      • #143318
                                                                                        Thomas
                                                                                        Participant

                                                                                          If all it takes to get on the denier list is to question the facts surrounding the current situation, then, please add me to the list.

                                                                                          I was was taught to question facts and assumptions and always challenge any idea that could become what is generally called group think.

                                                                                        • #143346
                                                                                          SeanT
                                                                                          Keymaster

                                                                                            I have a friend that is a biology teacher in in Phila public schools
                                                                                            He sent me a txt this morning. His school is closed because Montgomery county PA was ‘shut down’ and that is where most of the teachers in his school live.

                                                                                            https://6abc.com/health/covid-19-montco-shutting-down-to-prevent-virus-spread/6009039/

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                                                                                          • #143350
                                                                                            Max
                                                                                            Keymaster

                                                                                              Ok, this thread has the potential for getting out of hand.

                                                                                              Jeff: can you give a little more information from your end, you are being very cryptic.

                                                                                              As for ‘corona virus deniers’ there is a very interesting thing going on psychologically with people over this. It seems very much either a panic or a ‘its just the flu’ response with only a very few thinking through the situation rationally.

                                                                                              Corona virus is definitely happening and the effects are already being seen. In terms of numbers we are only at the very beginning of the outbreak, so those comparisons are silly. We can see what happened in Italy. It does not just affect old people. Italy’s health minister had the virus, was on TV looking fine, and next day was dead. It seems that it can manifest as an extreme fever (nasty enough in itself). which if it takes a turn badly into the lower lungs can kill you fast. Or something like that.

                                                                                              I’m still out and about but I am extremely concerned for the effects we are seeing on the public and the economy. Nome of that can be denied. It’s probably time (i.e. Joe) to stop downplaying it and look at what is actually happening holistically, not just medicically. I am also seeing a Republican / evangelical angle in Culpeper where the virus is being denied, likely due to realizations of possible effects in November.

                                                                                            • #143351
                                                                                              Max
                                                                                              Keymaster

                                                                                                Here’s a little flavor as follow up:

                                                                                                https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/we-are-treated-worse-garbage-italian-families-locked-inside-bodies-dead-spouses

                                                                                                Not that these people are not old and are dying suddenly of the virus.

                                                                                              • #143357
                                                                                                Short Stroke
                                                                                                Participant

                                                                                                  It’s good to be skeptical of the news. We’ve been lied to a million times. Yet, if the numbers coming out of Italy are true, then we ought to be worried about what may come.

                                                                                                  It is important to note that it is not alarming that 50 Americans have died from the Coronavirus. What is alarming is the contagious nature of coronavirus ties with its fatality rate, and what its spread here portends for us. Even if the fatality rate is only .1 percent, like the flu, tens of thousands will die here. That’s a big number. Yet the fatality rate is likely much higher than that.

                                                                                                  No one was freaking out about the devastation immediately following Fort Sumter. If anyone was worried, it was about the impending devastation that war brings about, rightly so. We are probably just at the beginning of this war.

                                                                                                • #143360
                                                                                                  JeffSags
                                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                                    I live in New Rochelle NY

                                                                                                    We had our first case tues 3/3. The president just called us a hot spot. All schools closed. Many colleges and universities too…you can Google the rest. There is national guard in town and the state just set up a mobile test site.

                                                                                                    People will chose to believe whatever set of information they want.

                                                                                                    • #143364
                                                                                                      Max
                                                                                                      Keymaster

                                                                                                        Thanks for the update. The virus is definitely a real thing for you! Are there any restrictions on you?

                                                                                                        We were booked in for a Great Wolf Lodge weekend for our youngest’s 4th birthday. We just rescheduled it. I have yet to tell him! It’s not so much the communal nature if being on an indoor waterpark / hotel, but more to do with what we have observed in behavior over the last couple days. It is 2.5 hours away and the potential of being stuck down there was too much in my judgement.

                                                                                                        People are going nuts.

                                                                                                    • #143365
                                                                                                      Lloyd
                                                                                                      Participant

                                                                                                        Along the same lines: Something else I just thought about yesterday – In the near future, I think it’s possible you could be on a trip, even a short driving trip, and get stuck in an area quarantine. Checked and repacked the ruck that lives in my truck last night, just in case.

                                                                                                        MVT Texas 2015-2020
                                                                                                        Team Cowbell / Team Coyote / Team Rekkr

                                                                                                      • #143367
                                                                                                        JeffSags
                                                                                                        Participant

                                                                                                          I live in the “1 mile containment zone” and I work in the schools. Officially, i have not been quarantined but I am 100% certain that my family and I have been exposed. How could we not be!?

                                                                                                          We are self quarantineing just to be safe/responsible and bc we have friends and family members that are high risk.

                                                                                                          The hardships are going to be on the back end of this. Deaths, economic hardships may still be weeks away. Businesses are closing temporarily bc there is no traffic and public transportation is down like 50%…

                                                                                                          The man who was the first case here is still in the icu!

                                                                                                        • #143370
                                                                                                          idahocajun
                                                                                                          Participant

                                                                                                            In the spirit of the thread: Information/Intelligence…I’ll share updates from my AO and current experience as boots on the ground in the ER and preparations going into EMS (Ada County Medical Director):

                                                                                                            1. NO documented COVID-19 cases in Idaho as of last night. Doesn’t mean it’s not there, just no positives.
                                                                                                            2. CDC, State Dept of Health and Hospitals are coordinating with each other on surge planning, resource utilization.
                                                                                                            3. Supply chain is a HUGE issue. PPE is on a 20 day timeline to run out secondary to everyone buying up N-95’s.
                                                                                                            4. Staffing is going to be a HUGE issue. But as it evolves and we begging to stretch the workforce, we’ll adjust and adapt. Wrist case scenario…no one shows up to work.
                                                                                                            5. Nothing has changed on the epidemiology of the virus: highly infections, two phases of illness. Droplet spread (N-95 overkill), surgical mask and 6-10 feet of separation enough. Killed easily with regular cleaners and disinfectants, but lingers on uncleaned surfaces 5-6 days.
                                                                                                            6. Effects on economy are undeniable. My 401k got its teeth kicked in. Good thing I’m no where near retirement.
                                                                                                            7. Humans as a herd species are stupid. Put them into a contained space and introduce panic…BOOM.
                                                                                                            8. Wash your hands, take your vitamins, get sleep. Statistically, you’ll be fine.
                                                                                                            9. I appreciate a good skeptic, misinformation is legit. What people are reading and then interpreting are vastly different. I’ve seen it. People will always see and hear what they want to.
                                                                                                            10. This is as real as it’s come for my generation. Glad I’ve trained and prepped. Having the right mentality goes further than ever now. Stay frosty. If anyone wants to chat directly, PM me. Or get my cell. Happy to share thoughts, plans, etc. Stay frosty…

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                                                                                                          • #143372
                                                                                                            idahocajun
                                                                                                            Participant

                                                                                                              Begin, sorry…typing on a cell phone. Please excuse the typos.

                                                                                                            • #143376
                                                                                                              idahocajun
                                                                                                              Participant

                                                                                                                FWIW:

                                                                                                                Case Fatality

                                                                                                                Case-fatality proportion among cases aged ≥60 years was:

                                                                                                                60-69 years: 3.6%
                                                                                                                70-79 years: 8%
                                                                                                                ≥80 years: 14.8%

                                                                                                                Comorbidity Fatality Rate
                                                                                                                10.5% for those with cardiovascular disease,
                                                                                                                7% for diabetes
                                                                                                                6% each for chronic respiratory disease, hypertension, and cancer.
                                                                                                                Case fatality for patients who developed respiratory failure, septic shock, or multiple organ dysfunction was 49%

                                                                                                                Limited information is available about the clinical presentation, clinical course, and risk factors for severe COVID-19 in children.
                                                                                                                2.1% were aged <20 years
                                                                                                                0%<10 years of age

                                                                                                              • #143377
                                                                                                                AntMan
                                                                                                                Participant

                                                                                                                  X-posting from the Rekkr chat. Sorry I dont know your username.
                                                                                                                  meat shortage

                                                                                                                  Oil is down and groceries are going to be going up. Much like how banks are refusing to offer mortgages at the new rates because they are too low for them.

                                                                                                                  New York state and City have declared state of emergency.

                                                                                                                  Lastly, there is a distinction between saying it is not going to be the end of the world and being a denier. Just because a lot of us are skeptical of the sky is falling presented by pols and the media doesn’t mean that we aren’t taking it seriously.

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                                                                                                                  AntMan
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                                                                                                                    Nj is lacking in produce and dried goods.

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                                                                                                                  • #143390
                                                                                                                    Max
                                                                                                                    Keymaster

                                                                                                                      Lastly, there is a distinction between saying it is not going to be the end of the world and being a denier. Just because a lot of us are skeptical of the sky is falling presented by pols and the media doesn’t mean that we aren’t taking it seriously.

                                                                                                                      Well this is interesting. Depends whether being a ‘denier’ relates to the danger of the virus itself, or the real-time consequences because the second order effects are here.

                                                                                                                      I think we need to accept that what is happening is happening. Hence this thread. It seems to be a very emotive topic, perhaps because it clashes with normalcy bias? I have stated that I am not cancelling training unless I am forced to l, by perhaps a travel ban or whatever. But the reality is that the shelves are going bare and people are panicking.

                                                                                                                      We don’t live in a movie, and Korean paratroopers are not dropping from the sky. But putting aside normalcy bias, we have to consider the chance that this is what the collapse looks like, as we slide into what appears to be an economic collapse.

                                                                                                                      How far it goes, and when the recovery starts, I don’t know. We had the great depression, and recovered after many years. Does a collapse have to mean zombie reset, or can it be a mix of very hard times for all of us?

                                                                                                                      The big thing to keep an eye on is rioting, EBT cards, and all that.

                                                                                                                    • #143393
                                                                                                                      Anonymous
                                                                                                                      Inactive

                                                                                                                        Went to get lunch from the hot bar at the Harris Teeter on my job site, turned around when I saw there were lines going halfway across the store. Seems panic buying is in full swing here too.

                                                                                                                        Nevermind how severe or not this pathogen is, the panic is already here, so we should be prepared and be able to mitigate its effects. The perception is the reality here – if people think this is the zombie apocalypse, they’ll act accordingly, even if it isn’t the zombie apocalypse the social consequences could be the same.

                                                                                                                        I do think there’s a good possibility this will fizzle out by May, once folks make some lifestyle changes and get used to them it’s surprising what you can accept as a new “normal”. That being said prepare like it could go on for the rest of the year, whether or not you think the Boogaloo begins with a pandemic prepare like it could and use this as an practice run for The Big One. I already have a decent amount of non-perishables (though I should get more), also should grab some more ammo. ;-)

                                                                                                                        Also, if you do gardening, at least where I’m at it’s already warm enough to start seeds indoors. No harm in starting extra plants for friends and family in case supply lines are interrupted.

                                                                                                                      • #143400
                                                                                                                        Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                        Moderator

                                                                                                                          Florida Governor DeSantis said that over the next 24 hours, he will be activating certain components of the Florida National Guard to offer assistance up to and including setting up field hospitals if that becomes necessary.

                                                                                                                        • #143409
                                                                                                                          BILLY
                                                                                                                          Participant

                                                                                                                            We’re currently in the air flying from Honduras to the US returning from a mission trip, Central America is taking it seriously as all public workers are wearing masks (no idea where they’re sourcing them though) El Salvador has closed border to international travel (one day after we left to go to Honduras) in the US, our church pastor who is traveling with us has been asked by the large local school system (toledo ohio) if there would be a way for the church to provide daily meals for students in the area as they have closed schools for 3 weeks and many students get most of their food and all of their nutrition from school lunch program. Locally all the same shortages on TP and perishables like eggs and milk. One solution for everyone may be local farms, we are part of a “herd share” and we buy directly from a local farm so we get eggs, milk, meat on weekly pick up schedule. Online grocery, thrive market has been crashed with people trying to sign up for delivery.

                                                                                                                          • #143415
                                                                                                                            TC
                                                                                                                            Participant

                                                                                                                              Did a survey of grocery stores around here (SE Florida) night of March 12th.

                                                                                                                              Out of:

                                                                                                                              – toilet paper, paper towels, napkins
                                                                                                                              – isopropyl alcohol and peroxide
                                                                                                                              – cold/flu meds and supplements
                                                                                                                              – eggs

                                                                                                                              Running low on:

                                                                                                                              – pasta and sauce
                                                                                                                              – beans and rice
                                                                                                                              – canned foods
                                                                                                                              – water (they kept restocking; FL has good water preps due to hurricanes)
                                                                                                                              – refrigerated meat
                                                                                                                              – produce
                                                                                                                              – cereal and bread

                                                                                                                              I’m on Team SHTF with this one, even if only for the secondary effects alone.

                                                                                                                              We’re still only in the early part of the exponential growth curve and yet the stock market’s already fallen 30%, Federal Reserve has had to inject $1.5 trillion in liquidity, and people have been cleaning out the stores.

                                                                                                                              So what’s going to happen in April-May when the curve really takes off, when the supply chain disruptions from China and India are due to to hit, when the high rate of severe cases overload our healthcare system, compounded by the shortage of PPE equipment and testing supplies? When Americans disobey quarantines because we’re not some monocultural obedient collectivist society?

                                                                                                                              It’s not like there’s no precedent, no hard data. China, Iran, and Italy precede us and they’re not doing too well.

                                                                                                                            • #143416
                                                                                                                              Daniel
                                                                                                                              Participant

                                                                                                                                Economic effects are piling up here in the Midwest. One of my customers works for a local firm that has to have components made in Wuhan. No other options. Big employer and without those inputs everybody goes home and stays there.

                                                                                                                                Wuhan facility isn’t answering the phone for weeks. Emails same. Someone happens across an old personal phone number of one of the Wuhan managers. They call it. He answers. Badness. No production, however, they do have stock made before it went to shit and it should be sitting where they left it. No way to move it, though.

                                                                                                                                It’s planning time and a real doozy is cooked up. Many palms greased. “Special” white cargo 747 with “above average” pilots is contracted to fly into China and land at the factory (above average pilot skillz required at this point). Cargo is loaded. Said Wuhan manager and the few staff he needed to put it together at his end get to split up a pallet of humanitarian goodies. Local officials get one of their own. Takeoff from the factory and return flight are as uneventful as the flight in, and the firm survives for now.

                                                                                                                                When the pile runs out there ain’t no more…

                                                                                                                              • #143421
                                                                                                                                JeffSags
                                                                                                                                Participant

                                                                                                                                • #143513
                                                                                                                                  Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                  Moderator

                                                                                                                                    Toilet paper panic has hit my rural area! ;-)

                                                                                                                                    This morning everything was well stocked, now my small grocery store is almost out of paper products and soda. :wacko:

                                                                                                                                    Not sure what meaning I can apply to that. :unsure:

                                                                                                                                    Plenty of standard food and cleaning products available.

                                                                                                                                    Haven’t been to bigger stores since early February. No need or desire.

                                                                                                                                    Fuel seems to be reducing price daily in my area.

                                                                                                                                  • #143517
                                                                                                                                    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                    Moderator

                                                                                                                                      The general attitude in my immediate area (15 mile radius) is paying attention, but no signs of strange behavior like I see when a hurricane approaches.

                                                                                                                                      Public Schools in my area of interest are either extending spring break or starting it early.

                                                                                                                                      No reported COVID-19 cases in my area of interest.

                                                                                                                                      Official numbers for Florida…

                                                                                                                                      2019 Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19)
                                                                                                                                      as of 12:54 a.m. ET 3/14/2020

                                                                                                                                      Positive Cases of COVID-19

                                                                                                                                      70 – Florida Residents
                                                                                                                                      6 – Florida Residents Diagnosed and Isolated Outside of Florida
                                                                                                                                      7 – Non-Florida Residents

                                                                                                                                      Deaths

                                                                                                                                      3 – Florida Residents

                                                                                                                                      Number of Negative Test Results

                                                                                                                                      478

                                                                                                                                      Number of Pending Test Results

                                                                                                                                      221

                                                                                                                                      Number of People Under Public Health Monitoring

                                                                                                                                      365 – currently being monitored
                                                                                                                                      1413 – people monitored to date

                                                                                                                                      Positive Test: A positive test is when a sample sent to the state health lab comes back positive for COVID-19.

                                                                                                                                      Negative Test Result: A negative test result is when a sample sent to the state health lab comes back negative for COVID-19.

                                                                                                                                      Pending Test Result: A pending test result is when a sample sent to the state health lab has not been declared positive or negative at the time.

                                                                                                                                      People Under Public Health Monitoring: The number of people under public health monitoring includes those at risk of having been exposed to COVID-19 who are monitoring their health under the supervision of public health officials.

                                                                                                                                    • #143533
                                                                                                                                      Thomas
                                                                                                                                      Participant

                                                                                                                                        The major stock indices are down because the markets do not know how to price COVID-19 into the market. The mid and long term effects remain in question. The short term panic buying of toilet paper is idiocy. China may or may not have have suffered catastrophic losses due to illness but we do know that the CCP lies brazenly. How badly the supply chain is damaged will be known shortly.

                                                                                                                                        Oil is down because the saudis, and particularly the crown prince, want to break OPEC. This has led to an oil war with Russia. Oil will stay down for March and maybe for April. That depends on the saudis. The saudis can drive oil to extreme lows because the cost to extract a barrel of oil in SA is very low. Watch the Asian commodities boards on Sunday evening US time to get a feel for how US commodities boards will open on Monday.

                                                                                                                                        Don’t confuse what happens with oil with stock indices as they react to market effects from coronavirus.

                                                                                                                                      • #143656
                                                                                                                                        Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                        Moderator

                                                                                                                                          2019 Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19)
                                                                                                                                          as of 6:10 p.m. ET 3/15/2020

                                                                                                                                          Positive Cases of COVID-19

                                                                                                                                          136 – Florida Residents
                                                                                                                                          6 – Florida Residents Diagnosed and Isolated Outside of Florida
                                                                                                                                          13 – Non-Florida Residents

                                                                                                                                          Deaths

                                                                                                                                          4 – Florida Residents

                                                                                                                                          Number of Negative Test Results

                                                                                                                                          684

                                                                                                                                          Number of Pending Test Results

                                                                                                                                          514

                                                                                                                                          Number of People Under Public Health Monitoring

                                                                                                                                          442 – currently being monitored
                                                                                                                                          1,573 – people monitored to date

                                                                                                                                          Positive Test: A positive test is when a sample sent to the state health lab comes back positive for COVID-19.

                                                                                                                                          Negative Test Result: A negative test result is when a sample sent to the state health lab comes back negative for COVID-19.

                                                                                                                                          Pending Test Result: A pending test result is when a sample sent to the state health lab has not been declared positive or negative at the time.

                                                                                                                                          People Under Public Health Monitoring: The number of people under public health monitoring includes those at risk of having been exposed to COVID-19 who are monitoring their health under the supervision of public health officials.

                                                                                                                                        • #143705
                                                                                                                                          tahawus
                                                                                                                                          Participant

                                                                                                                                            NJ Governor Murphy announced a statewide curfew from 8:00 PM to 5:00 AM.

                                                                                                                                          • #143706
                                                                                                                                            trailman
                                                                                                                                            Participant

                                                                                                                                              Sounds like the ongoing theme


                                                                                                                                              Md. governor announces closure of bars, restaurants, movie theaters effective at 5 p.m. Monday to stem spread of coronavirus”

                                                                                                                                              No curfew, take out etc will be allowed. Groceries, banks, gas etc all remain open. He mobilized a couple hundred State troopers and the guard will be enforcing.

                                                                                                                                            • #143717
                                                                                                                                              idahocajun
                                                                                                                                              Participant

                                                                                                                                                https://www.ktvb.com/mobile/article/news/health/coronavirus/watch-boise-mayor-mclean-closes-all-city-buildings-announces-state-of-emergency-over-coronavirus/277-b026859a-3cd0-4df1-9756-00fd0ee25fc7

                                                                                                                                                My AO is locking down. Moved our flight home to tomorrow, hopefully can still make it back. Not running from the virus…but back into the sick. Needed in the trenches. Family will be safer at home with what I have there for them. Stay frosty, National interstate travel ban is likely imminent.

                                                                                                                                              • #143722
                                                                                                                                                Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                Moderator

                                                                                                                                                  Florida’s COVID-19 Data and Surveillance Dashboard

                                                                                                                                                  Positive Cases of COVID-19
                                                                                                                                                  as of 7:00 p.m. ET 3/16/2020

                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed Cases in Florida Residents

                                                                                                                                                  142 (+6 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed by DOH

                                                                                                                                                  99

                                                                                                                                                  Tested by private labs

                                                                                                                                                  43

                                                                                                                                                  Characteristics of Florida Resident Cases

                                                                                                                                                  FL resident diagnosed & isolated out of state*

                                                                                                                                                  6

                                                                                                                                                  Deaths

                                                                                                                                                  5 (+1 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                • #143739
                                                                                                                                                  mark9mmp
                                                                                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                                                                                    Oklahoma closed schools statewide until April 6 minimum, maybe longer. We have 10 confirmed cases so far. Various cities have implemented shutdowns of restaraunts, gyms, bars etc.

                                                                                                                                                    "Ah, so you're that dick"

                                                                                                                                                  • #143770
                                                                                                                                                    SeanT
                                                                                                                                                    Keymaster

                                                                                                                                                      Oil is down because the saudis, and particularly the crown prince, want to break OPEC. This has led to an oil war with Russia. Oil will stay down for March and maybe for April. That depends on the saudis. The saudis can drive oil to extreme lows because the cost to extract a barrel of oil in SA is very low.

                                                                                                                                                      Both Saudi and Russia have an interest in breaking the US fracking industry. These producers need about 42/bbl min to break even. This will cascade into bonds and loans issued and taken by the frackers to default and that will stress the banks.

                                                                                                                                                    • #143799
                                                                                                                                                      Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                      Moderator

                                                                                                                                                        Positive Cases of COVID-19
                                                                                                                                                        Updated as of 6:03 p.m. ET 3/17/2020

                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed Cases in Florida Residents

                                                                                                                                                        195 (+53 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed by DOH

                                                                                                                                                        129

                                                                                                                                                        Tested by private labs

                                                                                                                                                        66

                                                                                                                                                        Characteristics of Florida Resident Cases

                                                                                                                                                        FL resident diagnosed & isolated out of state*

                                                                                                                                                        6

                                                                                                                                                        Deaths

                                                                                                                                                        7 (+2 in last 24 hours)

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                                                                                                                                                      • #143826
                                                                                                                                                        First Sergeant
                                                                                                                                                        Moderator

                                                                                                                                                          Lynchburg, VA Walmart had about 15 packs of toilet paper on the shelves. All napkins, paper towels and tissues gone. No eggs.
                                                                                                                                                          No flour.
                                                                                                                                                          No hand sanitizer.
                                                                                                                                                          A few bottles of hand soap.

                                                                                                                                                          Sams Club had no paper products at all.
                                                                                                                                                          No hand sanitizer.

                                                                                                                                                          Our dentist has canceled all non emergency procedures for at least 2 weeks.

                                                                                                                                                          Had a routine VA checkup scheduled for tomorrow. They called this morning and asked if I would be willing to do a telephonic appointment with my doctor as they were trying to keep people from having to come into the clinic. Told them I would.

                                                                                                                                                          Local schools are out for at least 2 weeks.

                                                                                                                                                          Local churches have cancelled services until 1 April.

                                                                                                                                                          Chick-Fil-A with “Drive Thru Only” signs.

                                                                                                                                                          Virginia has instituted no groups larger than 10 people. See link for story.
                                                                                                                                                          https://wset.com/news/coronavirus/police-given-order-to-enforce-ban-limiting-public-gatherings-to-10-people

                                                                                                                                                          FILO
                                                                                                                                                          Signal Out, Can You Identify
                                                                                                                                                          Je ne regrette rien
                                                                                                                                                          In Orbe Terrum Non Visi

                                                                                                                                                        • #143828
                                                                                                                                                          Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                          Moderator

                                                                                                                                                            Public schools K-12; who already extended spring break, will be out until at least April 15.

                                                                                                                                                            Stores closing earlier than normal, almost as if they are preparing for curfews.

                                                                                                                                                            Fuel continues to drop in price.

                                                                                                                                                            Statewide buildings supposed to stay at 50% of rated capacity.

                                                                                                                                                            Many counties are more stringent.

                                                                                                                                                            Bars and Clubs are ordered closed for next 30 days.

                                                                                                                                                          • #143835
                                                                                                                                                            First Sergeant
                                                                                                                                                            Moderator

                                                                                                                                                              Forgot to add update on ammo and firearms.

                                                                                                                                                              The store I work at part time has sold out of rifle and pistol ammo. More has been ordered but we were told that it would be 10 days before it shipped. We normally get it in 2 or 3 days.

                                                                                                                                                              Rifles, pistols and shotguns are selling fast. People that have never owned guns are coming in to buy them.

                                                                                                                                                              FILO
                                                                                                                                                              Signal Out, Can You Identify
                                                                                                                                                              Je ne regrette rien
                                                                                                                                                              In Orbe Terrum Non Visi

                                                                                                                                                            • #143840
                                                                                                                                                              Hessian
                                                                                                                                                              Participant

                                                                                                                                                                Philly cops will delay arrests regarding drug offenses, prostitution, and theft.

                                                                                                                                                                https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/488155-philadelphia-police-to-delay-arrests-for-some-non-violent-crimes

                                                                                                                                                                State Police are still patrolling the highways, in the city (Saw them during my evening commute to work).

                                                                                                                                                              • #143860
                                                                                                                                                                TC
                                                                                                                                                                Participant
                                                                                                                                                                  • sgammo.com has stopped taking orders
                                                                                                                                                                  • luckygunner.com is out of 9mm
                                                                                                                                                                  • primaryarms.com is out of 9mm/556/223
                                                                                                                                                                  • targetsportsusa has a 12-15 day delay
                                                                                                                                                                  • midwayusa.com still has some $1+/round 9mm/556/223 and shipping delays
                                                                                                                                                                  • 80% lowers and jigs are mostly sold out everywhere

                                                                                                                                                                  :wacko:

                                                                                                                                                                • #143871
                                                                                                                                                                  Max
                                                                                                                                                                  Keymaster

                                                                                                                                                                    We need to get clear on this gathering restriction. It is 100 in VA, with Fed recs of 10. and now VA has put in limits for gyms and restaurants for 10.

                                                                                                                                                                    Here is a quick link after a search:

                                                                                                                                                                    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.usnews.com/news/best-states/virginia/articles/2020-03-17/northam-pushes-10-person-limit-at-restaurants-gyms%3fcontext=amp

                                                                                                                                                                  • #143874
                                                                                                                                                                    riflemaniv
                                                                                                                                                                    Participant

                                                                                                                                                                      I work for a large telcom and on Monday I got issued a travel access and fuel access letters from DHS. I have gotten letters like these before from state and local agencies while working during hurricanes and storms but never the Feds. I’m interested to see where this goes.

                                                                                                                                                                    • #143881
                                                                                                                                                                      Robert Henry
                                                                                                                                                                      Participant

                                                                                                                                                                        Public schools K-12; who already extended spring break, will be out until at least April 15.

                                                                                                                                                                        Stores closing earlier than normal, almost as if they are preparing for curfews.

                                                                                                                                                                        Fuel continues to drop in price.

                                                                                                                                                                        Statewide buildings supposed to stay at 50% of rated capacity.

                                                                                                                                                                        Many counties are more stringent.

                                                                                                                                                                        Bars and Clubs are ordered closed for next 30 days.

                                                                                                                                                                        Gradually getting us ready… Incrementalism in a slightly compressed form. :good:

                                                                                                                                                                        www.jrhenterprises.com

                                                                                                                                                                        Lost my MVT class list- been here a time or two :)
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                                                                                                                                                                      • #143885
                                                                                                                                                                        Robert Henry
                                                                                                                                                                        Participant

                                                                                                                                                                          I work for a large telcom and on Monday I got issued a travel access and fuel access letters from DHS. I have gotten letters like these before from state and local agencies while working during hurricanes and storms but never the Feds. I’m interested to see where this goes.

                                                                                                                                                                          It is my contention that shipping services and phone communications will be the last services to shutter. Neither rain nor sleet, nor gloom of night. Hopefully Post office will be last to shutter.

                                                                                                                                                                          Amazon evidently said no more non essential orders- TP, food, etc. o.k. New couch no.

                                                                                                                                                                          Mt. House showed two items available on their dealer ordering website last night. I sent an email blast out to our buyer’s list, those two items sold out in minutes. Mt. House/Oregon Freeze Dried is not one of these little rinky dink outfits. They are a huge manufacturer that supplies the gubmint as well as private sector. For them to be low or out of anything is a huge deal. They have showed a total of 3 items as available in the last 2 weeks and those sold out in minutes.

                                                                                                                                                                          Ammo the same- hope people didn’t screw around the last 3 years when “salad prices” were available on everything gun and ammo related. “Salad prices” are gone as far as I can tell- paid $70. more per case for ammo in minutes the other day!!!

                                                                                                                                                                          www.jrhenterprises.com

                                                                                                                                                                          Lost my MVT class list- been here a time or two :)
                                                                                                                                                                          Team Coyote. Rifleman Challenge- Vanguard

                                                                                                                                                                        • #143888
                                                                                                                                                                          SeanT
                                                                                                                                                                          Keymaster

                                                                                                                                                                            Our dentist has canceled all non emergency procedures for at least 2 weeks.

                                                                                                                                                                            Had a routine VA checkup scheduled for tomorrow. They called this morning and asked if I would be willing to do a telephonic appointment with my doctor as they were trying to keep people from having to come into the clinic. Told them I would.

                                                                                                                                                                            Same here for the dentist but I have an Opthomologist appt today at noon. They confirmed it is a go yesterday. My boss has to get a procedure at the VA in Clearwater FL, it is also on.
                                                                                                                                                                            At VA, we are in full prepare mode. We have been ramping up telehealth for several months now. It is a core part of our ‘new’ mission to deliver more care to more Vets. It was intended to support those in rural areas where the drive to the VAMC was a burden.

                                                                                                                                                                            There is screening taking place at the VA medical centers as you enter the property. There is traffic control funneling cars and entrances open to buildings are limited.

                                                                                                                                                                            Got this in an email this morning.

                                                                                                                                                                            “VA’s primary mission is to provide world-class health care to our Nation’s Veterans, but our lesser known fourth mission is to provide health care to Veterans and civilians in an emergency or disaster. During the COVID-19 outbreak, this could mean backing up the nation’s health care system if we are called upon to absorb the overflow of COVID-19 patients. It could also mean that our Vet Centers and mental health professionals may be mobilized to help support a worried American public. “

                                                                                                                                                                            • This reply was modified 3 months, 2 weeks ago by SeanT.
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                                                                                                                                                                          • #143890
                                                                                                                                                                            D Close
                                                                                                                                                                            Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                              Virginia:

                                                                                                                                                                              67 confirmed cases as of last night. Up from 9.

                                                                                                                                                                              Judicial emergency declared by Supreme Court.

                                                                                                                                                                              Early release for non-violent offenders in jail.

                                                                                                                                                                              Schools are distributing food to needy kids.

                                                                                                                                                                              UVA Medical center short of basic PPE.

                                                                                                                                                                              State officials refuse to say how many ventilators are available.

                                                                                                                                                                              USN Second Fleet staff member confirmed with COVID19. Returned to US from Germany on official travel. Immediately self-quarantined. (He must have known he had it before he got on the plane?)

                                                                                                                                                                              Richmond area reporting several cases. Two being treated at VCU and an 80 year old male who returned to his retirement community in Richmond from Florida.

                                                                                                                                                                              Virginia Department of Emergency Management employee tested positive with COVID.

                                                                                                                                                                              GOV orders 10 customer limit at restaurants and gyms.

                                                                                                                                                                              AG Herring temporarily suspends evictions.

                                                                                                                                                                              Navy screening personnel and developing preparation for overseas movement plans to prevent virus on ships.

                                                                                                                                                                            • #143892
                                                                                                                                                                              SeanT
                                                                                                                                                                              Keymaster

                                                                                                                                                                                I work for a large telcom and on Monday I got issued a travel access and fuel access letters from DHS. I have gotten letters like these before from state and local agencies while working during hurricanes and storms but never the Feds. I’m interested to see where this goes.

                                                                                                                                                                                When I was Operations, my ID badge was a red stripe which means FERO Federal Emergency Response Official. I don’t have that anymore… We are on 100% telework as of today in my org.

                                                                                                                                                                              • #143893
                                                                                                                                                                                Ronin42
                                                                                                                                                                                Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                  i am glad new gun-owners are buying, i hope they wake up a little after the dust has settled.
                                                                                                                                                                                  also, i saw the town next door bacvked off of the curfew. *breathe sigh of temporary relief*

                                                                                                                                                                                  im wondering about wall street atm. dow-jones 30% drop, in only a few days. would’ve been worse had the stop gap not been in place, but that only delays… feds lending out 1.5+ trillion… i suspect a quiet run on the banks..

                                                                                                                                                                                  may be the next great depression.
                                                                                                                                                                                  may be necessary for market sake, a deflation of currency may be needed to move forward.

                                                                                                                                                                                  mvt alumni CTT & DCH
                                                                                                                                                                                  some other schools..

                                                                                                                                                                                  part time tactical couch potato

                                                                                                                                                                                • #143902
                                                                                                                                                                                  trailman
                                                                                                                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                    COVID-19 Statistics in Maryland
                                                                                                                                                                                    Number of Confirmed Cases: 85

                                                                                                                                                                                    Cases by County:

                                                                                                                                                                                    Anne Arundel – 4
                                                                                                                                                                                    Baltimore City – 4
                                                                                                                                                                                    Baltimore County – 10
                                                                                                                                                                                    Carroll – 1
                                                                                                                                                                                    Charles – 2
                                                                                                                                                                                    Frederick – 1
                                                                                                                                                                                    Harford – 3
                                                                                                                                                                                    Howard – 8
                                                                                                                                                                                    Montgomery – 31
                                                                                                                                                                                    Prince George’s – 20
                                                                                                                                                                                    Talbot – 1

                                                                                                                                                                                    Cases by Age Range:

                                                                                                                                                                                    Under 18 : 0
                                                                                                                                                                                    18-64 : 60
                                                                                                                                                                                    65+ : 25

                                                                                                                                                                                  • #143927
                                                                                                                                                                                    BILLY
                                                                                                                                                                                    Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                      I work for a large telcom and on Monday I got issued a travel access and fuel access letters from DHS. I have gotten letters like these before from state and local agencies while working during hurricanes and storms but never the Feds. I’m interested to see where this goes.

                                                                                                                                                                                      Ok stupid question time…. is this travel access letter something that gives the holder the ability to travel and buy gas? that is what it sounded like but to know that they have actually been printed and distributed ups my oh crap meter a bit. do they mention specifics? like how long they are valid? if there are any restrictions? that sort of stuff, basically is there any intel we can extract from them that might tell us what the plan is?

                                                                                                                                                                                    • #143928
                                                                                                                                                                                      Hessian
                                                                                                                                                                                      Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                        I work for a large telecom and on Monday I got issued a travel access and fuel access letters from DHS. I have gotten letters like these before from state and local agencies while working during hurricanes and storms but never the Feds. I’m interested to see where this goes.

                                                                                                                                                                                        Currently doing a major overhaul at a Mobile switching center at a major telecom. They are currently asking all construction projects to reduce staff and or stop. Our company has implemented a plan to isolate the switch techs from the construction workers, but my guess is that by the end of the week we probably will be shut down.

                                                                                                                                                                                        My previous project I was assigned to was for a major name brand pharma company. There is still staff from my company there and the client is pressing for an earlier completion due to ramp up research for the virus.

                                                                                                                                                                                      • #143929
                                                                                                                                                                                        Tony S
                                                                                                                                                                                        Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                          <ups my oh crap meter a bit.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Mine too, especially because of this part:

                                                                                                                                                                                          but never the Feds.

                                                                                                                                                                                        • #143932
                                                                                                                                                                                          riflemaniv
                                                                                                                                                                                          Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                            This is identical to what I got at work. It’s a form letter from DHS. Like I said I have never gotten one of these from a Fed level agency in over 20 years working for this company.

                                                                                                                                                                                            Travel

                                                                                                                                                                                            Fuel

                                                                                                                                                                                          • #143941
                                                                                                                                                                                            T
                                                                                                                                                                                            Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                              First case in Comal County, Texas. My company going to 50% at work, 50% at home. Approx 160 employee company.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • #143955
                                                                                                                                                                                              Mike Q
                                                                                                                                                                                              Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                I know of a large COVID-19 testing facility which will be online by the end of the week. There are already 10’s of thousands of samples sitting in boxes waiting to be tested. Expect the number of “infected” to dramatically increase within a week.

                                                                                                                                                                                              • #143961
                                                                                                                                                                                                D Close
                                                                                                                                                                                                Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Virginia:

                                                                                                                                                                                                  USNS Comfort will deploy to NYC to assist in relief operations

                                                                                                                                                                                                  In a statement the Navy said, “The Navy is always ready to support Defense Support of Civil Authorities (DSCA) missions, and the USNS Comfort (T-AH 20) and USNS Mercy (T-AH 19) are preparing to provide possible DSCA support if called upon. Both ships are currently working to complete scheduled maintenance cycles and identify necessary medical staffing to deploy as soon as possible. The Comfort and Mercy will not deploy to treat COVID patients, but will be made available to assist with treatment of other patients in coastal locations where local health professionals are necessarily focused on a large number of COVID cases. More information on the possible deployments of Comfort and Mercy will be announced once a firm timeline is established.”

                                                                                                                                                                                                  The ship is currently in maintenance and will not be ready for weeks. They will not treat COVID-19 patients on board.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Norfolk: Police will no longer respond to shoplifting or theft calls. They are releasing “nonviolent offenders” from jail.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  First COVID case in Norfolk today. Traveled from out-of-state. No evidence of community transmission so far.

                                                                                                                                                                                                • #143962
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Positive Cases of COVID-19
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Updated as of 6:02 p.m. ET 3/18/2020

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed Cases in Florida Residents

                                                                                                                                                                                                    299 (+104 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed by DOH

                                                                                                                                                                                                    177

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Tested by private labs

                                                                                                                                                                                                    122

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Characteristics of Florida Resident Cases

                                                                                                                                                                                                    FL resident diagnosed & isolated out of state*

                                                                                                                                                                                                    6

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Deaths

                                                                                                                                                                                                    8 (+1 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                  • #143965
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                      CDC Data

                                                                                                                                                                                                      This first preliminary description of outcomes among patients with COVID-19 in the United States indicates that fatality was highest in persons aged ≥85, ranging from 10% to 27%, followed by 3% to 11% among persons aged 65–84 years, 1% to 3% among persons aged 55-64 years, <1% among persons aged 20–54 years, and no fatalities among persons aged ≤19 years.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    • #143966
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Anonymous
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Inactive

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Can’t go to the gym because they were closed on the governor’s orders, along with most other social places, so much for not being a fat-ass again this summer.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        All the retail stores are running restricted hours, fast food joints are drive-thru or delivery only.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Meanwhile Baltimore is still murdering people.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2020/03/18/we-need-those-beds-baltimore-mayor-urges-people-to-put-down-guns-after-violence-continues-during-covid-19-pandemic/amp/

                                                                                                                                                                                                      • #144010
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Ronin42
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                          https://www.mdjonline.com/neighbor_newspapers/south_metro/city-of-south-fulton-declares-state-of-emergency-and-enacts/article_14680b2c-695b-11ea-b880-7b268cc0f8eb.html

                                                                                                                                                                                                          “The city of South Fulton declared a state of emergency and enacted a mandatory curfew to limit the spread of the coronavirus.

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Residents are told to be in their homes between 9 p.m. and 7 a.m., with exceptions for such things as going to and from medical facilities and work, responding to emergencies, emergency and public safety personnel, essential city Personnel, people traveling through the city to a destination outside the city and/or making deliveries within South Fulton. ”

                                                                                                                                                                                                          thats spooky, sounds awfully close to the “M” word
                                                                                                                                                                                                          or am i just overthinking it?

                                                                                                                                                                                                          mvt alumni CTT & DCH
                                                                                                                                                                                                          some other schools..

                                                                                                                                                                                                          part time tactical couch potato

                                                                                                                                                                                                        • #144011
                                                                                                                                                                                                          DuaneH
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                            I prescribe a lot of hydroxychloroquine (plaquenil) and beginning Tuesday I began getting phone calls from patients stating their pharmacies were running short. Apparently Elon Musk tweeted about it Monday night.

                                                                                                                                                                                                          • #144012
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Robert Henry
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Wife begged me for a new treadmill after trying to fix ours for a week. I picked up it last Saturday. Glad I did.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Been doing a lot of short runs between phone calls, kettle bell work, etc.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              I think a lot of folks will be wishing they bought an airsim rifle from Max- you can be working manipulations and shooting in the back yard if you can’t get out of quarantine to get to the actual range.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              www.jrhenterprises.com

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Lost my MVT class list- been here a time or two :)
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Team Coyote. Rifleman Challenge- Vanguard

                                                                                                                                                                                                              • #144014
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Max
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Keymaster

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Well, ShotStop plates are flying off the shelves, which is the upside to possible issies with having to delay the HEAT 1 next week due to potential interstate travel bans.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I am sure the AirSim is still shipping if you want it. It dropships from CA.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              • #144013
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  9 p.m. and 7 a.m.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Is COVID-19 more infectious at night? ;-) (sarcasm)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I think a lot of folks will be wishing they bought an airsim rifle from Max- you can be working manipulations and shooting in the back yard if you can’t get out of quarantine to get to the actual range.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I agree with you, but I am still glad I can just step outside and shoot anything anytime.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                • #144018
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Max
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Keymaster

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Getting info that ALL State National Guard have been activated.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Primarily for medical support, but would be availabale for any disorder in cities, and perhaps supporting SP for checkpoints if there is an Interstate travel ban imposed.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    This is getting really dumb and dangerous. I more and more think this is simply a control exercise.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • #144019
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Ronin42
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      damn, i was worried i was overthinking… thats bad

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      mvt alumni CTT & DCH
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      some other schools..

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      part time tactical couch potato

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • #144021
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Ronin42
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        where did your hear that from?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        im having difficulty finding info for all stat guard units..

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        mvt alumni CTT & DCH
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        some other schools..

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        part time tactical couch potato

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • #144023
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        veritas556
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          For your reading pleasure: Anatomy of a virus

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • #144024
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Getting info that ALL State National Guard have been activated.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Wouldn’t be surprising, though I only know about Florida’s activation by Governor of medical units.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            My focus is more to the Southeast, with emphasis on Florida/Georgia.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • #144029
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Ronin42
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              same here joe, im east of atlana
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              mind if i pm ya?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              mvt alumni CTT & DCH
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              some other schools..

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              part time tactical couch potato

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • #144030
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                same here joe, im east of atlana
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                mind if i pm ya?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                :good:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • #144031
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                trailman
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Our guard has been activated for a while now, basically medical and transportation units. I may have heard in this mornings press conference that the guard may be nationalized, I’m not sure.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Hogan closed all enclosed malls today. He also waived more regulations and restrictions on the medical industry. I know the dude must be tired but he sounded downright pissed that people are not paying attention. Said people are using this time off to party. I think that considering the population density here we are doing quite well.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  COVID-19 Statistics in Maryland
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Number of Confirmed Cases: 107
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Number of Deaths: 1

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Cases by County:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Anne Arundel – 5
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Baltimore City – 8
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Baltimore County – 12
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Calvert – 1
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Carroll – 2
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Charles – 2
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Frederick – 1
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Harford – 3
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Howard – 16
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Montgomery – 33
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Prince George’s – 23
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Talbot – 1

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Cases by Age Range:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Under 18 : 1
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  18-64 : 76
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  65+ : 30

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • #144036
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    …that the guard may be nationalized, I’m not sure.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    That would be a major escalation by Federal Government; though possible, so far all known by me Guard activations related to COVID-19 are by their Governors.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • #144037
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    trailman
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I prescribe a lot of hydroxychloroquine (plaquenil) and beginning Tuesday I began getting phone calls from patients stating their pharmacies were running short. Apparently Elon Musk tweeted about it Monday night.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Listening to the press conference the president is authorizing the use of other drugs like Resdemivir.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • #144038
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      trailman
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        …that the guard may be nationalized, I’m not sure.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        That would be a major escalation by Federal Government; though possible, so far all known by me Guard activations related to COVID-19 are by their Governors.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Correct

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • #144039
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        AntMan
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Participant
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • #144045
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Max
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Keymaster

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Well, that was yesterday, right.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • #144044
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Anonymous
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Inactive

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              All NG activations I’ve heard have been on governors’ orders, nothing from Trump yet, that would be a big shift.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              USNS Mercy and USNS Comfort are being deployed stateside to assist the large cities, they won’t deal with COVID-19 cases but will deal with other cases to reduce the hospitals’ workloads.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              One small upside to this pandemic is that some DAs are reconsidering what crimes actually warrant police intervention and we’re finally seeing officials push back against a lot of these restrictive regulations on medical treatments. I’m sure they’ll crack back down on us plebes when this all blows over, though.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              My security job’s been pretty easy for me because of the early closings and lack of seated dining.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Can’t really add much more about Maryland beyond what Trailman has been posting, keep up the good work, dude! :good:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • #144046
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Max
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Keymaster

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                See people want to question my Intel on the NG. Fine, fill your boots. Out.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • #144047
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                wheelsee
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Abbott (TX) activated NG on Monday (Sunday?).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  One of my team (ED) is affected but said that no First Responders or Medical would be included as Abbott said “they’re already in the trenches.”

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Hoping not, as we would lose a good dozen people just in the ED.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • #144052
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Ronin42
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    See people want to question my Intel on the NG. Fine, fill your boots. Out.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    not for lack of belief in your Intel max.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    more like, i don’t want to believe it.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    i don’t like the idea that boots near me are being primed like in New York.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    thank you for the heads up

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    mvt alumni CTT & DCH
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    some other schools..

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    part time tactical couch potato

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • #144054
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Getting info that ALL State National Guard have been activated.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I can only speak about the Florida National Guard and it is not at this time fully activated.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      This is getting really dumb and dangerous. I more and more think this is simply a control exercise.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Potentially yes and that threat is very real.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      See people want to question my Intel on the NG. Fine, fill your boots. Out.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I see no one questioning anything, just reports of News and at least in my case actual first hand knowledge regarding Florida.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I know of no Federalized National Guard forces due to COVID-19 at this time in Florida.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I know there are cookie cutter plans available for the President to pick from if he chooses.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I also guarantee that elements within DOD have updated such mobilization plans as soon as COVID-19 crossed their awareness. There are elements within DOD thats sole purpose is to make and update such plans.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Just as I know there are plans for mobilizing active duty Armed Forces. These plans predate COVID-19.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Again there are plans for even the most unlikely possibilities.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Believe me when I say I am monitoring for signs of such mobilizations within Florida. I am not talking about news reports, but actual networked reports that I will personally verify.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I take even the rumors of such very seriously and a full mobilization by even a State Governor to be a major escalation under current circumstances.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • #144082
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Positive Cases of COVID-19
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Updated as of 6:00 p.m. ET 3/19/2020

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed Cases in Florida Residents

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        393 (+94 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed by DOH

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        223

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Tested by private labs

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        170

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Characteristics of Florida Resident Cases

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        FL resident diagnosed & isolated out of state*

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        6

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Deaths

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        9 (+1 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • #144089
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Ronin42
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Commission Orders Mandatory 24/7 Shelter-in-Place (with exceptions)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          mvt alumni CTT & DCH
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          some other schools..

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          part time tactical couch potato

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • #144091
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          veritas556
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Participant
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • #144092
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Something I want to emphasize!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              We are dealing with a very fluid and complex situation. There are many “rumors” and speculation about what is and what will happen.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              The biggest of these involves Nationwide shutdown/quarantine and it’s variations!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              If you are not ready to deal with two weeks to a couple of months without resupply you are probably fucked and will be at the mercy of whatever organization is enforcing such acts!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Assuming this actually happens.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              This is why many of us have stressed the importance of REAL preparedness.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              It is likely there will be opportunities to confirm with verification of such action shortly before it happens.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Obviously there will not be time to prepare at that point, at most you will have an opportunity to move to an alternate location if not too far from your primary.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              If this truly goes bad I wish you luck, if this doesn’t and things return to normal I hope those of you who are not truly ready correct that serious problem.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              One day; whether tomorrow or 10 years from now, it will be the “real deal!”

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • #144093
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Note I still have not changed my mind regarding what I consider a low risk virus.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                The reaction certainly has a significant chance of precipitating an Event.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • #144096
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                First Sergeant
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Moderator
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • #144118
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  riflemaniv
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    PA Gov Tom Wolf basically went full despot shutting down the whole state.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    PA shutdown

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • #144131
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Robert Henry
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      This is why many of us have stressed the importance of REAL preparedness.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      It is likely there will be opportunities to confirm with verification of such action shortly before it happens.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Obviously there will not be time to prepare at that point, at most you will have an opportunity to move to an alternate location if not too far from your primary.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      If this truly goes bad I wish you luck, if this doesn’t and things return to normal I hope those of you who are not truly ready correct that serious problem.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      One day; whether tomorrow or 10 years from now, it will be the “real deal!”

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Can I get an amen!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I’m talking to several hundred people a day now on the phone that all echo the “I should have done more ahead of time” after thought.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      A major reason we prepare ahead of time is to keep our independence- we won’t have to go down and register and get checked at the Fema “freebees” tent at the local walmart filled with vectors to get a case of MREs cause our family is starving.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      www.jrhenterprises.com

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Lost my MVT class list- been here a time or two :)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Team Coyote. Rifleman Challenge- Vanguard

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • #144158
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Hessian
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Just received an email with work containing docs from DHS. They are for me to be permitted on the road and presented to LE if pulled over. The document is currently good until the end of May 2020.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • #144165
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        BILLY
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          some good news from a patriots point of view…. I just sat in on a conf. call put on by federal law enforcement to update state and local law enforcement. So I have to say I got off the call feeling better about a lot of things, first and foremost, they are so far away from being able to coordinate any sort of national lock down, that it just shouldnt be considered a threat as of today (I reserve the right to adjust my opinion as we get further in though) over the timespan of about 75 minutes, zero minutes were devoted to talking about martial law, and a lot of minutes were spent talking about how to get PPE supplies from federal stock piles to local health departments, a lot of talk was also focused on how to handle the day to day law enforcement tasks that still need done. One example is that people that want to work at nursing homes need background checks, however that has to happen in person at a local PD to get fingerprint cards completed. Also, as you’ve all heard, non violent offenses are being dealt with differently, either ignored completely or just being given a written citation. another good point I took from the call was that some of the systems in place are working, there were requests to tie in positive covid tests to allow responding LEO’s to know if they are pulling up to the home of an ill person, this was immediately shut down on many fronts both from legal points of view (HIPAA rules) and from a privacy perspective with the majority of the groups voice loudly saying “that would never be something we would support”. overall, LE both federal and local, is too busy dealing with day to day crime with reduced staff to put up some sort of iron curtain style quarantine. the difference between this scenario and many of the martial law wet dreams all the front porch preppers have is that this sceanario allows every single person walking down the street to have the capability to kill without even touching the enforcers of this lock down. cops and soldiers are people too and until you see them wearing MOPP 4 level gear, they are going to be just as scared of a 9 year old girl getting them sick as they are of a guy walking with an AR. This is all just my opinion after listening so nothing top secret but that is what i heard and what i gleaned from listening. good luck out there

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • #144193
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Max
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Keymaster
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • #144194
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Max
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Keymaster

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              DoD WARNO (today): Prepare for a 2 week shelter in place.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • #144199
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                DuaneH
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Is that for DOD personnel only or is it going to implemented country wide?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • #144202
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Max
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Keymaster

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      It was for DOD. Million dollar question if it will go nation wide or state by state etc.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • #144198
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  JustARandomGuy
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    DoD WARNO (today): Prepare for a 2 week shelter in place.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Got any idea when they might be looking to put that in place?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Nothing much on my end, but was at some medical appointments the other day. Doc says they’re looking at an 8 week timeframe and had me re-schedule appointments till end of April. They said they thought it would be shorter. I told them I’d make a bet with them it would be longer.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Today they call me and tell me I have to bump the appointment out further to end of May.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    So, I’m guessing I’m going to win that bet… unfortunately… :-(

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • #144200
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Positive Cases of COVID-19
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Updated as of 6:00 p.m. ET 3/20/2020

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed Cases in Florida Residents

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      510 (+117 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed by DOH

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      261

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Tested by private labs

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      249

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Characteristics of Florida Resident Cases

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      FL resident diagnosed & isolated out of state*

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      6

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Deaths

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      11 (+2 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • #144201
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Max
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Keymaster

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        So. Just to clarify: my understanding is that this is not ‘martial law.’ But a ‘shelter in place’ like for a winter storm.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I expect something to come out this weekend. For each State, it may be announced by each State. I don’t know if it will be a Federal anouncement. Some States have already done this.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I think that NG is mainly for medical and support. I do not know if they will be supporting Law Enforcement, conducting checkpoints etc. Perhaps it will differ by State.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Perhaps Trump is trying to herd cats with State Governers and either does that, or has to announce Federal shelter in place order?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I saw some photos of NG in I think MD. People going nuts about martial law. The troops had parked the vehicles non-tacically, no evidence of weapons or guns in turrets. A couple of the Hummers had a tarped and bungeed array in the turret – my guess would be for a speaker unit for a psyop unit. Thus medical, psyop, civial affairs etc. Can be used to drive the streets and put out messages etc. Just my thoughts.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        The NG are not your enemy, not at this time. They are bubba from next door. This is support to a shelter in place to try and slow the spread of the virus. Chill the fuck out, slow the paranoia, shelter in place if the order comes. Do honey do tasks, work on the yard. Good shit, coronapocalypse has been really chill so far.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • #144203
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          DuaneH
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Did this go out by .mil?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • #144204
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          trailman
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/maryland/articles/2020-03-20/maryland-ag-scammers-use-coronavirus-fears-to-dupe-people

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Baltimore Mayor Bernard C. “Jack” Young said deployment of National Guard troops “helps provide resources we need to support the work being done to keep Baltimore healthy.”

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            The statement from the mayors office said the National Guard will be stationed to help support meal distribution at school sites throughout Baltimore. The guard will assist in feeding children through the program begun earlier this week and led by staff from the Mayor’s Office of Children and Family Success, the Department of Planning, and the Department of Recreation and Parks.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            According to the statement, the guard also will provide aid in planning and logistical support for the city’s hospitals and medical teams.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Here in our County the Schools have set up a meals program for kids.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • #144207
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            DuaneH
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Thanks for the updates. I had the day off so I went out to some gun stores (looking for a new holster after DCH) and went to a grocery store. People are genuinely scared and rumors abound. Google Grande Peur. It has happened before.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I have a family member that believes the paranoid press and I have been getting texts from her. I have been trying to re-assure that it is not the apocolypse. (not yet anyway).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • #144226
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              First Sergeant
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Thanks for the updates. I had the day off so I went out to some gun stores (looking for a new holster after DCH) and went to a grocery store.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                :whistle: ;-)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Talked with a friend of mine that is in the VANG. They are being told to be prepared for transportation missions and possibly assisting with drive up testing.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                FILO
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Signal Out, Can You Identify
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Je ne regrette rien
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                In Orbe Terrum Non Visi

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • #144336
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                TC
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Participant
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • #144293
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  idahocajun
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Idaho Updates:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Cases spiking, at least with increased testing. Knew it was here. We’ve shut down operations at our heaviest hit hospital in Sun Valley:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    https://www.mtexpress.com/news/coronavirus_covid-19_info/st-luke-s-suspends-normal-operations/article_abfecf10-6af1-11ea-960c-1394dcf1b34c.html

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Only the ER remains open, my group has been asked to help with staffing.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Washington state is now starting to look like Italy:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Our staff remains healthy, however we’ve now only just seen our first cases of admitted patients with COVID-19. We’re early in our curve so to speak.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Boise has shut down all schools and nonessential city buildings/services. Shelter in place requested…but not mandated.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Unprecedented times…I’m off to start my 6 day stretch in the ER. Pounding probiotics, Vit C, E, D, selenium, etc. The stats are in my favor…but shit, you never know. Into the breach once more…stay frosty folks.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • #144084
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    veritas556
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Read, absorb, read again and share.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      “It’s like an elephant being attacked by a house cat. Frustrated and trying to avoid the cat, the elephant accidentally jumps off a cliff and dies.”

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • #144347
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Positive Cases of COVID-19
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Updated as of 6:00 p.m. ET 3/21/2020

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed Cases in Florida Residents

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        706 (+196 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed by DOH

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        316

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Tested by private labs

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        390

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Characteristics of Florida Resident Cases

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        FL resident diagnosed & isolated out of state*

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        6

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Deaths

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        12 (+1 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Preliminary CDC report of U.S.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        508 hospitalized

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        121 ICU

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        As of 18 March.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • #144353
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        First Sergeant
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Background checks for firearms are taking anywhere from 6 to 12 hours in Virginia. The reason is the volume has overloaded the system.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re-stocking is an issue. Distributors for ammo are now quoting 10-14 days before an order ships. We are out of 5.56/.223, 9MM, .45 ACP, .380 ACP. .38 Special and .357 Magnum.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Local stores continue to be out of TP, hand soap and bottled water. Eggs are a no-go. Meat selection and fresh vegetables are hit or miss.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          FILO
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Signal Out, Can You Identify
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Je ne regrette rien
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          In Orbe Terrum Non Visi

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • #144354
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Distributors for ammo are now quoting 10-14 days before an order ships. We are out of 5.56/.223, 9MM, .45 ACP, .380 ACP. .38 Special and .357 Magnum.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            It’s nice to be prepared so these inconveniences are just that, inconvenient! B-)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • #144360
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            First Sergeant
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Distributors for ammo are now quoting 10-14 days before an order ships. We are out of 5.56/.223, 9MM, .45 ACP, .380 ACP. .38 Special and .357 Magnum.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              It’s nice to be prepared so these inconveniences are just that, inconvenient! B-)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              :good:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              FILO
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Signal Out, Can You Identify
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Je ne regrette rien
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              In Orbe Terrum Non Visi

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • #144403
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              DuaneH
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                So I didn’t run to the gunstores when all this started like I did in 2001 and 2008, but I did go Fri and Sat. Fri was to pick up some practice ammo for my son and I to practice pistol stuff as I didn’t want to tap into my stash. Sat was to pick up ammo for some people I wanted to owe me a favor who were not smart enough to stock up earlier.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                One thing I noticed in my area is that most of the gun buyers were either first time gun buyers or were buying a class of guns for the first time. (ie a shotgun owner buying a pistol, etc).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • #144444
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                T
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Daughter flew in from Bali Indonesia through Seoul South Korea to Detroit and Austin. No immigration process. Checked temperature on forehead with a laser as passengers walked by. No stopping. Passengers asked where coming from and released.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • #144457
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Anonymous
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Inactive

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Nothing official but hearing that Maryland might go under lockdown starting tomorrow.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • #144460
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    trailman
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Nothing official but hearing that Maryland might go under lockdown starting tomorrow.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      According to……?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • #144466
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      veritas556
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Ohio just fell.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • #144467
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        trailman
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Ohio just fell.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          To what? North Koreans, Confederate Force’s? Please be specific when posting information. News outlets, Government websites etc.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • #144470
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          veritas556
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Literally, the state is shutting down tomorrow till APR6 at a minimum – all non-essential businesses, yada yada. Figuratively, I meant “fell to its knees”.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • #144474
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            wheelsee
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Well, there is good news from all this. Everyone is fixing to be introduced to all of the “NON-ESSENTIAL” aspects of government.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              It’s up to you what you do afterwards……. go back to status quo or demand cessation of those services.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • #144478
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Lloyd
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                …Everyone is fixing to be introduced to all of the “NON-ESSENTIAL” aspects of government…

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                AMEN, Brother!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                MOST “functions” of govt are “non-essential”, boondoggles… Hence my belief at this point that covid-19 really IS a bad deal for maybe 10% of the people that get it, but about 90% of this whole deal is an orchestrated bullshit takedown of the economy & monetary system, for the purpose of diverting blame away from “banksters” and helping the “elites”, “deep state”, etc shore up CONTROL over us peons.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                As usual, it is working very well, so far.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                MVT Texas 2015-2020
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Team Cowbell / Team Coyote / Team Rekkr

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • #144485
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Civilianresponder
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  :good:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • #144499
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Positive Cases of COVID-19
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Updated as of 6:00 p.m. ET 3/22/2020

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed Cases in Florida Residents

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    937 (+231 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed by DOH

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    370

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Tested by private labs

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    567

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Characteristics of Florida Resident Cases

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    FL resident diagnosed & isolated out of state*

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    6

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Deaths

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    13 (+1 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Preliminary CDC report of U.S.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    As of 18 March.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    508 hospitalized

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    121 ICU

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Awaiting further updates.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • #144501
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      California, New York, and Washington State National Guard has been Federally activated under Title 32, which allows the State National Guard to remain under the control of their respective Governors, but is funded by the Federal Government.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      In theory this is a smart way to attempt to alleviate fears of Federally imposed Martial Law, however the activated State Guard are all in Socialist controlled regimes.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Still while funding their use the Federal Government also has deniability regarding actual State Guard actions.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • #144550
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      TyeMugz
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I found this thread late, so I apologize. This info is a week old. My brother-in-law is a federal judge in Seattle, Washington. Two weeks, ago, 09 MAR 2020, he was told to do all of his work remotely from home. Last Monday morning, 16 MAR 2020, he was called into work for a briefing. At the briefing, he was told, among other things, that some time in the next little while (whatever that means), there will be a federal lockdown of the whole country. The term ‘martial law’ was not used. He was also not told what that actually looks like, so that’s anybody’s guess. To reiterate, I don’t have a time frame for the ‘Lockdown’ or any info on what it will actually be. You can read whatever you want into this info. I just wanted to pass it along.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • #144586
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        SeanT
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Keymaster

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          2020 Olympics reported to have been postponed. Not confirmed but reported on national cable tv news.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Reference
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          All public schools in Virginia will remain closed through “at least” the academic year and all restaurants must end dine-in service, the governor announced Monday as the state dramatically ramps up its efforts to stop the spread of coronavirus.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Gov. Ralph Northam said at a news conference Monday afternoon that he signed an executive order to close many businesses for at least 30 days.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • #144589
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Anonymous
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Inactive

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            So the rumors about Maryland locking down are unfounded so far.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            There are NGs in the park by my house though.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • #144604
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            wheelsee
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I talked to a colleague at a hospital 30 miles east of me. Said that they’d had 6 different toilet paper dispensers kicked in (destroyed) and the bid rolls stolen.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Seriously?? No shit……

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • #144607
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Seriously?? No shit……

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I had a passing thought earlier today…

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                A vehicle accident in a busy urban intersection between a Wells Fargo armored truck and a Charmin Toilet Paper truck.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Both vehicles lose their contents in the wreck!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                The gawking bystanders ignore the bags of money, instead running from the scene arms filled with toilet paper.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Crazy times!
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                B-)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • #144608
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Positive Cases of COVID-19
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Updated as of 9:55 p.m. ET 3/23/2020

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed Cases in Florida Residents

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1147 (+210 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed by DOH

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  400

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Tested by private labs

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  747

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Characteristics of Florida Resident Cases

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  FL resident diagnosed & isolated out of state*

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  6

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Deaths

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  17 (+4 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Preliminary CDC report of U.S.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  As of 18 March.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  508 hospitalized

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  121 ICU

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Awaiting further updates.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • #144636
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Ronin42
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    so, i saw a few articles mentioning the dollar being put to a digital form?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    that worries me allot, as if fiat currency doesn’t have a value, but now the paper is worthless?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    and what about the whole tracking every dollar spent, and no tax free(private) transactions?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    i found that concerning.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    While i’m not an economist, i see the continuous devaluing of currency as a very bad sign.. i think of how Rome’s dollar fell, in step with the Roman empire…

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    i’m very curious on your thoughts on this one.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    mvt alumni CTT & DCH
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    some other schools..

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    part time tactical couch potato

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • #144638
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Ronin42
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonbrett/2020/03/23/new-coronavirus-stimulus-bill-introduces-digital-dollar-and-digital-dollar-wallets/#659e23fe4bea

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      that was the forbs article

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      mvt alumni CTT & DCH
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      some other schools..

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      part time tactical couch potato

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • #144639
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      BILLY
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonbrett/2020/03/23/new-coronavirus-stimulus-bill-introduces-digital-dollar-and-digital-dollar-wallets/#659e23fe4bea

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        that was the forbs article

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Wow, that is big, I havent heard boo about this other than right here, this is basically the beginning of the end of the world as we know it if this goes into effect, imagine trying to buy a firearm at a gun show one day in the future and have the transaction denied because it’s geolocated you at an
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        “unlicensed gun store” or something like that, and good luck keeping tabs on the about of “dollars” in circulation after this happens. It’s grown ten fold in the last 30ish years so it would undoubtably explode when they did this

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Ronin42
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          yeah that freaked me out, along with the hr 5717 bill that midget rassler and island flipper, Hank Johnson proposed(ga).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          pestered my state rep., along with hanks team at some point via message, for all the good it will do. till then, i will make plans in money wise, and other wise.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          i suppsose they will ‘never let a good crisis go to waste’… :scratch:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          mvt alumni CTT & DCH
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          some other schools..

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          part time tactical couch potato

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • #144717
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          idahocajun
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Update from Idaho:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Been silent for a bit on the forum only because I’ve been up to my head in this shit. In the middle of a seven day stretch and buried with preparedness meetings and Incident Command stuff. I’ll try to keep it brief:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. We’ve seen the same “curve” here as NY and other places, we’re early still and project this weekend will be the shit show (I’ll be working all weekend).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            2. Multiple positives with a few deaths. The deaths so far are older with significant comorbidities, but it’s fast and devastating. This viral infection is very much NOT like influenza, that’s my firsthand experience.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            3. Normalcy bias has reduced the social distancing and shelter in place mentality. There really is something to reducing risk of exposure, especially with the way this virus survives in places and on things. Getting past the entitled mentality has been impossible and it will only promote spread.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            4. Supplies are in short demand. PPE for medical professionals and first responders is stretch to its thinnest. We continue to explore sources and it seems more is on the way, but until it’s in hand, I don’t trust anyone.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            5. Schools are shut down, local non-essential businesses are on lockdown.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            6. Stores struggle to restock the buttcoin of the apocalypse. Amazing the run on toilet paper. Availability of perishables has not been affected…yet.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            That’s what I’ve got, stay frosty. I’m off for a nap, then back to the suck.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • #144726
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            wheelsee
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @idahocajun – PM sent

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • #144787
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Positive Cases of COVID-19
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Updated as of 6:05 p.m. ET 3/25/2020

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Confirmed Cases in Florida Residents

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1867 (+729 in last 48 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Confirmed by DOH

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                568

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Tested by private labs

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1667

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Characteristics of Florida Resident Cases

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                FL resident diagnosed & isolated out of state*

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                6

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Deaths

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                23 (+6 in last 48 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Preliminary CDC report of U.S.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                As of 18 March.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                508 hospitalized

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                121 ICU

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Awaiting further updates.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • #144788
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  The two hardest hit Counties in Florida are Broward and Dade.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Broward has 67 hospitalized and has 35 hospitals to absorb this need.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Dade has 63 hospitalized and has 46 hospitals to absorb this need.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  When looking at the rest of Florida obviously the urban areas have more patients, however these areas also have a far greater hospital capacity.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  At this time Floridas capacity to deal with current threat exceeds that demand despite “doom and gloom” predictions.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • #144790
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    :good:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • #144799
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Positive Cases of COVID-19
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Updated as of 7:10 p.m. ET 3/26/2020

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed Cases in Florida Residents

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      2352 (+485 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed by DOH

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      571

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Tested by private labs

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1781

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Characteristics of Florida Resident Cases

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      FL resident diagnosed & isolated out of state*

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      7 (+1 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Deaths

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      29 (+6 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Preliminary CDC report of U.S.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      As of 18 March.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      508 hospitalized

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      121 ICU

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Awaiting further updates.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • #144800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      onegunshort
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        At the GFSH (God Forsaken Hospital), the Morons in Charge (MIC) have pulled every doctor out of Doctor OneGunShort’s department and they’ll work the general wards in 12 hour shifts. They were going to do ICU rotations despite not knowing how to use the equipment. Smarter people prevailed and prevented that level of stupidity. However, no doctor will be tested before they start their shift despite the new test out of Belgium that provides results in 15 minutes. Any infected doctor will run around the hospital infecting everyone they come in contact with. This happened in a few European countries such that some hospitals were closed. The smarter doctors brought this up but the MIC’s don’t care.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • #144803
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          The smarter doctors brought this up but the MIC’s don’t care.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I am aware of one ED Doc in Florida that tested positive shortly after tests were coming available. Unsure at this point how many patients he infected.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • #144804
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Finally at least Florida is posting Hospitalized numbers.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Florida has 410 Hospitalized statewide.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • #144805
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            First Sergeant
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              First confirmed case in Lynchburg, VA.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Male in his 60’s that had been traveling.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              FILO
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Signal Out, Can You Identify
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Je ne regrette rien
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              In Orbe Terrum Non Visi

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • #144807
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Anonymous
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Inactive

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Just a little grocery update from where I’m at.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Went to a Wal-Mart by Ellicott City on Monday, it wasn’t a Super Wal-Mart so it was pretty small to begin with and all the usual panic-buying items were gone. Same for the larger Wal-Mart out in Glen Burnie, they had some toilet paper in but two staff members were there to enforce a one-pack-per-person rule. The H-Mart in Ellicott City was decently-stocked, grabbed some fish, a 15-pound bag of rice, and some other things, the most noticeable thing was a lack of the really cool foreign foods like durians and whatnot.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Went to Wal-Mart in Lutherville on Tuesday and it almost felt normal. They were well-stocked with fresh chicken, I got some lunch meat, they had some ground beef and frozen fish in stock as well. Even some of the really cheap buttpaper on the shelves with no quotas, though they were moving fast.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                One thing is certain, when this is all said and done I need to take a hunting course and learn how to harvest my own game. :wacko:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • #144831
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                fabio
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Here is the memo from Attorney General Barr to United States Attorney’s regarding Federal employee exemption from quarantine. It’s “a hall pass” if you are a federal employee in a quarantine zone. You’re welcome.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • #144834
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  fabio
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Pearl Harbor Naval Shipyard (a government, not private, shipyard) is allowing certain people to remain home. I do not have the numbers, but a significant percentage of people are remaining home (and getting paid.) Make no mistake, this is adversely impacting military preparedness.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • #144854
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Positive Cases of COVID-19
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Updated as of 7:10 pm 3/27/2020


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed Cases of Florida Residents

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      3198 (+846 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Characteristics of Florida Resident Cases

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      FL residents isolated out of state

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      8 (+1 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      FL Hospitalized

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      503 (+93 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      FL Deaths

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      46 (+17 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • #144867
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      trailman
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        COVID-19 Statistics in Maryland
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Number of Confirmed Cases: 774
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Number of Deaths: 5
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Hospitalizations: 173 ever hospitalized
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Released From Isolation: 25
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Cases by County:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Anne Arundel 63
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Baltimore City 88
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Baltimore County 103
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Calvert 9
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Caroline 1
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Carroll 9
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Cecil 9
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Charles 17
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Frederick 15
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Garrett 3
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Harford 18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Howard 62
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Kent 2
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Montgomery 208
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Prince George’s 148
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Queen Anne’s 1
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        St. Mary’s 4
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Somerset 1
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Talbot 1
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Washington 5
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Wicomico 5
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Worcester 2

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Cases by Age Range and Gender:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        0-9 4
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        10-19 11
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        20-29 107
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        30-39 136
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        40-49 161
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        50-59 149
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        60-69 110
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        70-79 75
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        80+ 21
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Female: 382, Male: 392

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Five Deaths:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        March 18: Prince George’s County resident in his 60s who had an underlying medical condition.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        March 20: Baltimore County resident in his 60s who had underlying medical conditions.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        March 22: Montgomery County resident in her 40s with an underlying medical condition.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        March 24: Prince George’s County resident in his 60s who had underlying medical conditions.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        March 27: Anne Arundel County resident over 80 years old.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • #144876
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        DuaneH
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          My former Reserve Unit (medical) had their 2 week AT cancelled 2 weeks ago (it was supposed to start last week.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          They just got a warno that they are going to be activated.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          The pres signed orders to allow DOD to call up necessary retired and IRR personnel on friday. My MOS is a critical one and I am in the IRR.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • #144883
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          DuaneH
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            My former Reserve Unit (medical) had their 2 week AT cancelled 2 weeks ago (it was supposed to start last week.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            They just got a warno that they are going to be activated.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            The pres signed orders to allow DOD to call up necessary retired and IRR personnel on friday. My MOS is a critical one and I am in the IRR.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Not as bad as I first thought. I got more complete information after making a phone call. The warno was simply that AT would be re-scheduled soon and on short notice for 2-4 weeks.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • #144886
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Positive Cases of COVID-19
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Updated as of 6:31 p.m. ET 3/28/2020


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed Cases of Florida Residents

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              3877 (+679 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Characteristics of Florida Resident Cases

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              FL residents isolated out of state

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              8 (no change in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              FL Hospitalized

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              567 (+64 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              FL Deaths

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              56 (+10 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • #144887
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Let’s provide some context to Florida’s COVID-19 data from above post.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Florida COVID-19 thus far has resulted in 56 deaths.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Florida Influenza Surveillance Reports over 6600 deaths, 13 of which were pediatric.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • #144888
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                xsquidgator
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  My former Reserve Unit (medical) had their 2 week AT cancelled 2 weeks ago (it was supposed to start last week.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  They just got a warno that they are going to be activated.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  The pres signed orders to allow DOD to call up necessary retired and IRR personnel on friday. My MOS is a critical one and I am in the IRR.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Not as bad as I first thought. I got more complete information after making a phone call. The warno was simply that AT would be re-scheduled soon and on short notice for 2-4 weeks.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  God bless you and good luck, if you are activated.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • #144889
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  First Sergeant
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    FILO
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Signal Out, Can You Identify
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Je ne regrette rien
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    In Orbe Terrum Non Visi

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • #144929
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Hessian
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      This week one of our subcontractor’s grandparent (they lived together) became ill with symptoms that indicated possible covid19 infection.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      The test results came back Saturday with a positive test. My job is now shut down for 14 days and everyone has been asked to quarantine and not come back to the site until the 13th of April.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Thankfully I have been working 3rd shift and I never interacted with the individual. All door handles on site were cleaned at the end of each shift.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • #144936
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Positive Cases of COVID-19
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Updated as of Sun 3/29/2020 06:42 PM ET


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed Cases of Florida Residents

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        4768 (+891 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Characteristics of Florida Resident Cases

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        FL residents isolated out of state

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        8 (no change in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        FL Hospitalized

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        633 (+66 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        FL Deaths

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        60 (+4 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • #144939
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Let’s provide some context to Florida’s COVID-19 data from above post.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Florida COVID-19 thus far has resulted in 56 deaths.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Florida Influenza Surveillance Reports over 6600 deaths, 13 of which were pediatric.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          March 2, 2020 marked the first confirmed COVID-19 case in Florida.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          26 days latter 56 Floridians have died from COVID-19.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          During this same time period 1329 Influenza Deaths; including 3 pediatric, have occurred since March 2 in Florida.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Maybe comparing the first 26 days of COVID-19 in Florida to the tail ending of 2019-2020 Influenza season isn’t a good comparison?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Back in 2019 during the first seasonal Influenza outbreak in Florida. 846 Floridians; including 1 pediatric, died of influenza during the first 26 days.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          So does this mean COVID-19 poses no threat?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Of course not, it’s a real virus with many victims.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I don’t think it’s beyond reason to consider that when compared to the 7000 Americans on average that die daily from a variety of causes that maybe this isn’t as bad as the hysteria suggests.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • #144991
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          trailman
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Maryland is locked down as of 8PM tonight. Essential travel only, food, doctor etc. Further restrictions on businesses. Arrest, 1 yr misdemeanor or 5K fine.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • #144994
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            trailman
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Maryland is locked down as of 8PM tonight. Essential travel only, food, doctor etc. Further restrictions on businesses. Arrest, 1 yr misdemeanor or 5K fine.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Why can’t I edit my posts? During the QA session Hogan seemed to moderate. Get outside for mental health, take a walk but don’t congregate with other people. Hit the store if your sink or toilet blows up and fix it but don’t be furniture shopping. I’m thinking that this is in part because of a massive nursing home outbreak he next county over. Over all even though the infection rate is going up we don’t seem to be as bad as you would think considering the density of the DMV area.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              We have a lot of stupid people, I had my own grocery store event the beginning of the week. Assholes congregating in the self checkout chatting with their friends the store staff which was on the other side of the lane from the self registers, asked them politely to move and got severe attitude.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              COVID-19 Statistics in Maryland
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Number of Confirmed Cases: 1413
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Number of negative test results: 13,316

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Number of Deaths: 15
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Hospitalizations: 353 ever hospitalized
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Released From Isolation: 43
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Cases by County:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Anne Arundel 110
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Baltimore City 152
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Baltimore County 186
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Calvert 12
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Caroline 4
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Carroll 82
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Cecil 13
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Charles 33
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Frederick 26
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Garrett 3
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Harford 24
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Howard 96
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Kent 3
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Montgomery 341
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Prince George’s 294
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Queen Anne’s 4
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              St. Mary’s 9
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Somerset 1
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Talbot 4
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Washington 7
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Wicomico 6
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Worcester 3
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Cases by Age Range and Gender:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              0-9 5
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              10-19 27
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              20-29 188
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              30-39 247
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              40-49 262
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              50-59 274
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              60-69 219
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              70-79 139
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              80+ 52
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Female: 716, Male: 697

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Looks like MD is starting to post negative test results.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • #145023
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Joe (G.W.N.S.)
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Positive Cases of COVID-19
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Updated as of Mon 3/30/2020 06:02 PM ET

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Confirmed Cases of Florida Residents

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5489 (+721 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Characteristics of Florida Resident Cases

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                FL residents isolated out of state

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                9 (+1 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                FL Hospitalized

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                715 (+82 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                FL Deaths

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                71 (+11 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • #145025
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Joe (G.W.N.S.)
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  So far 56,702 Floridians have been tested with 9.8% of those positive for COVID-19.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Understand only people with symptoms have been tested.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  With a current population of 21,992,985 only 0.258% of the Florida population has been tested to date.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • #145029
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Anonymous
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Seems the Maryland stay-at-home order is largely the previous recommendations but now with legal consequences for those who openly flaunt it. So far the only people who have gotten charges have been folks organizing large house parties and similar dumb shit, I don’t see how this would be easily enforceable otherwise because anyone can say they’re going to the grocery store.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • #145038
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    fabio
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      All Navy CONUS facilities are now at Health Protection CONdition Charlie (HPCON Charlie.) The attachment only references Joint Base Anacostia-Bolling (JBAB) because my parent Command is located there.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • #145048
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      fabio
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/eo-order-selected-reserve-certain-members-individual-ready-reserve-armed-forces-active-duty/

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        EO to Order the Selected Reserve and Certain Members of the Individual Ready Reserve of the Armed Forces to Active Duty

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        National Security & Defense

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Issued on: March 27, 2020

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        ★★★

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.), and in furtherance of Proclamation 9994 of March 13, 2020 (Declaring a National Emergency Concerning the Novel Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19) Outbreak), which declared a national emergency by reason of the threat that the novel (new) coronavirus known as SARS-CoV-2 poses to our Nation’s healthcare systems, I hereby order as follows:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Section 1. Emergency Authority. To provide additional authority to the Secretaries of Defense and Homeland Security to respond to the national emergency declared by Proclamation 9994, the authorities under section 12302 of title 10, United States Code, and sections 2127, 2308, 2314, and 3735 of title 14, United States Code, are invoked and made available, according to their terms, to the Secretaries of Defense and Homeland Security. The Secretaries of the Army, Navy, and Air Force, at the direction of the Secretary of Defense, and the Secretary of Homeland Security with respect to the Coast Guard when it is not operating as a service in the Navy, are authorized to order to active duty not to exceed 24 consecutive months, such units, and individual members of the Ready Reserve under the jurisdiction of the Secretary concerned, not to exceed 1,000,000 members on active duty at any one time, as the Secretary of Defense and, with respect to the Coast Guard when it is not operating as a service in the Navy, the Secretary of Homeland Security consider necessary. The Secretary of Defense or the Secretary of Homeland Security, as applicable, will ensure appropriate consultation is undertaken with relevant state officials with respect to the utilization of National Guard Reserve Component units activated under this authority.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Sec. 2. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        (i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        (ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        (b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        (c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        DONALD J. TRUMP

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        THE WHITE HOUSE,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        March 27, 2020.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • #145049
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        veritas556
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Dear webmaster: please turn on pagination in the theme post settings :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • #145054
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          wheelsee
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • #145056
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Positive Cases of COVID-19
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Updated as of Tue 3/31/2020 05:50 PM ET

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Total Florida Resident Tests Conducted

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              64,661

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Total Florida Residents Positive COVID-19 as a Percentage

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              10.4%

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed Cases of Florida Residents

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              6499 (+1001 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Characteristics of Florida Resident Cases

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              FL residents isolated out of state

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              9 (+1 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              FL Hospitalized

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              857 (+142 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              FL Deaths

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              85 (+14 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Current Florida Mortality Rate

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1.3%

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • #145128
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              fabio
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Updated “hall pass” attached in case your command hasn’t provided one.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • #145166
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Florida is finally posting Hospital bed, adult ICU, and pediatric ICU status.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Bed is 42.12% available of 53368 total capacity

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Adult ICU is 37.25% available of 6929 total capacity

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Pediatric ICU is 43.62% available of 658 total capacity

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Note: 1167 current total Florida COVID-19 Hospitalizations

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • #145168
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  wheelsee
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @DuaneH – PM sent

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • #145171
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    trailman
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Florida is finally posting Hospital bed, adult ICU, and pediatric ICU status.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Bed is 42.12% available of 53368 total capacity

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Adult ICU is 37.25% available of 6929 total capacity

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Pediatric ICU is 43.62% available of 658 total capacity

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Note: 1167 current total Florida COVID-19 Hospitalizations

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      That is about the best information that they can publish to calm the public.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • #145207
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I will be posting Florida Resident Hospitalization, COVID-19 Deaths, and Hospital Bed/ICU availability as I believe this to be more significant than someone sick at home.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Updated as of Fri 4/3/2020 6:40 PM ET

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Florida Resident Hospitalization

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1334 (+477 in last 48 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Florida Resident COVID-19 Deaths

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        170 (+85 in last 48 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Florida Hospital Bed/ICU availability

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Bed is 44.10% (increased 1.98% in last 12 hours) available of 53368 total capacity

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Adult ICU is 39.63% (increased 2.38% in last 12 hours) available of 6929 total capacity

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Pediatric ICU is 47.96% (increased 4.34% in last 12 hours) available of 658 total capacity

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Despite an increase in COVID-19 Hospitalizations, Bed, Adult ICU, and Pediatric ICU has more space available than 12 hours ago.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Note: Obviously non-COVID-19 patients were either discharged or passed away.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • #145214
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Here’s a good example of the hype/hysteria vs fact!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Miami/Dade is Florida’s “hotspot.”

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          They have 3364 COVID-19 cases.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          230 Hospitalizations

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          25 Deaths

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Miami/Dade Hospital Bed/ICU availability

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Bed is 41.98% available of 7914 total capacity

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Adult ICU is 35.65% available of 864 total capacity

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Pediatric ICU is 53.77% available of 106 total capacity

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • #145227
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          trailman
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Number of Confirmed Cases: 3125
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Number of negative test results: 22,485
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Number of Deaths: 53
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Hospitalizations: 821 ever hospitalized
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Released From Isolation: 159
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Cases and Deaths by County (deaths):

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Allegany 3
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Anne Arundel 289, (6)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Baltimore City 343, (6)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Baltimore County 491, (4)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Calvert 33, (1)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Caroline 4
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Carroll 134, (6)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Cecil 33, (1)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Charles 95, (1)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Dorchester 1
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Frederick 73, (2)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Garrett 3
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Harford 44
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Howard 180, (3)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Kent 5
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Montgomery 640, (9)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Prince George’s 653, (13)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Queen Anne’s 13
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            St. Mary’s 34
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Somerset 4
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Talbot 6
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Washington 29
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Wicomico 8, (1)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Worcester 7
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Cases by Age Range and Gender:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            0-9 13
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            10-19 65
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            20-29 379
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            30-39 557
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            40-49 575
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            50-59 625
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            60-69 473
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            70-79 299
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            80+ 139
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Female: 1,640 Male: 1,485

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            In my County

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            COVID-19 Statistics in Frederick County
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Number of Confirmed Cases: 93
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Number of Deaths: 2
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Cases ever hospitalized: 5
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Cases recovered: 20

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Cases by Gender
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Male: 36
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Female: 57
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Cases by Age Range (years)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            0-9: 0
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            10-19: 3
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            20-29: 17
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            30-39: 19
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            40-49: 18
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            50-59: 12
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            60-69: 7
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            70-79: 10
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            80+: 7

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Interestingly enough my older kids mother came down with it and was shitty sick for about five days. 53 YO and not in the greatest physical shape and does have medical issues. I don’t know if she is included in the recovery statistics since she wasn’t in the hospital.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • #145228
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            DuaneH
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              So my wife went shopping EARLY this morning and she is telling me that some stores are NOT accepting cash because it might be contaminated. I am not talking about little mom and pops either. I think she said among them Aldi. Will check when she gets back.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              This probably scares me more than anything. I was only slightly leaning in the conspiracy direction prior to this.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • #145231
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                …some stores are NOT accepting cash because it might be contaminated.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                There was some talk of this in my area and I made it clear that cash is king and any establishment that doesn’t take cash will NOT get my business.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I was not alone in my area regarding that sentiment and the issue went away for now.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • #145238
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  See anything in this data?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • #145240
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  trailman
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    They’re all in New York?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • #145241
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      True, but look closer. :yes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • #145245
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      D Close
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Looking at past 5 years prior 2018, in April of each year, 213-233k people die of any cause. If this is truly the phenomena it is advertised to be, we should see >300k deaths of any cause this month. And if underlying factors are really an issue, we may see a drop in future deaths as COVID may tend to pull near-future deaths into a closer time period but not affect the death rate much over a longer period.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/datarequest/D76;jsessionid=5E47E8F4C7EC5722588677880918122D

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        It may also be true that the focus on COVID mitigation may increase the death rate for other conditions as treatment for those are restricted due to resource constraints. :unsure:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • #145246
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          overwhelming majority have underlying conditions.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Gold star! :good:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          So what does China, Italy, Spain, and New York City have in common?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • #145247
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Lloyd
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            So what does China, Italy, Spain, and New York City have in common?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Air pollution?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • This reply was modified 3 months ago by Lloyd.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            MVT Texas 2015-2020
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Team Cowbell / Team Coyote / Team Rekkr

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • #145250
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Air pollution?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Three of the four have that issue, however Spain has good air quality with one geographic exception.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              :good:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • #145251
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Lloyd
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Population density would be the next thing I come up with… and maybe percentage of the population over the age of “x”.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • This reply was modified 3 months ago by Lloyd.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                MVT Texas 2015-2020
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Team Cowbell / Team Coyote / Team Rekkr

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • #145254
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Population density would be the next thing I come up with…

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Again Spain is the exception, but otherwise true. :yes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  …maybe percentage of the population over the age of “x”.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  This time NYC and surprisingly China; at least percentage wise, have less aged populations.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Lloyd both these and previous answers are factors in the COVID-19 consequences and have had an effect

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  While I can’t quantify all the reasons why these four have this in common, China, Italy, Spain, and New York City have a higher than average percentage of comorbidity.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Again while I can’t quantify all the reasons the following as Lloyd mentioned are age, pollution, population density leading to increased exposure are factors.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • #145255
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  DuaneH
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    So my wife went shopping EARLY this morning and she is telling me that some stores are NOT accepting cash because it might be contaminated. I am not talking about little mom and pops either. I think she said among them Aldi. Will check when she gets back.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    So it wasn’t Aldi, but a restaurant supply store we buy meat from.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • #145257
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Updated as of Sat 4/4/2020 06:16 PM ET

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Florida Resident Hospitalization

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1470 (+136 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Florida Resident COVID-19 Deaths

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      195 (+25 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Florida Hospital Bed/ICU availability

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Bed is 45.66% (increased 1.56% in last 24 hours) available of 53368 total capacity

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Adult ICU is 38.61% (decreased 1.02% in last 24 hours) available of 6929 total capacity

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Pediatric ICU is 50.47% (increased 2.51% in last 12 hours) available of 658 total capacity

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Despite an increase in COVID-19 Hospitalizations, Bed and Pediatric ICU has more space available than 24 hours ago. With a increase of 136 COVID-19 hospitalized patients Adult ICU availability only decreased by 71.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Note: Obviously non-COVID-19 patients were either discharged or passed away offsetting hospital availability.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Florida hospitals continue to have sufficient space to treat COVID-19 patients.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Miami/Dade continues to be Florida’s “hotspot” and has experienced increased hospital ICU availability in last 24 hours.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • #145311
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Lloyd
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Interesting!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Ivermectin (critter-wormer) shown to be VERY effective against SARS-Cov-2 in vitro
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354220302011

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        MVT Texas 2015-2020
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Team Cowbell / Team Coyote / Team Rekkr

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • #145314
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Ivermectin (critter-wormer) shown to be VERY effective against SARS-Cov-2 in vitro

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Cool, maybe my dogs won’t mind sharing their heartworm medicine with me! B-)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • #145320
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Updated as of Sun 4/5/2020 06:09 PM ET

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Florida Resident Hospitalization

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1555 (+85 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Florida Resident COVID-19 Deaths

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            221 (+26 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Florida Hospital Bed/ICU availability

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Bed is 44.72% (decreased 0.94% in last 24 hours) available of 53368 total capacity

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Adult ICU is 39.82% (increased 1.21% in last 24 hours) available of 6929 total capacity

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Pediatric ICU is 50.39% (decreased 0.08% in last 12 hours) available of 658 total capacity

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Despite an increase in COVID-19 Hospitalizations of 85 COVID-19 hospitalized patients Adult ICU availability actually increased by 84.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Bed and Pediatric ICU has slightly less space available than 24 hours ago.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Note: Obviously non-COVID-19 patients were either discharged or passed away offsetting hospital availability.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Florida hospitals continue to have sufficient space to treat COVID-19 patients.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Miami/Dade continues to be Florida’s “hotspot” and has again experienced increased hospital ICU availability in last 24 hours.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • #145321
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            TC
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Projections for your state from two different sites, to get a rough idea of the timing:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              https://covidactnow.org

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              For Florida:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              IHME

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              COVID Act Now

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              So Florida’s on lockdown, but exemptions are numerous and compliance is poor so far. Looks like cases won’t be bad until late April at the earliest.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • #145327
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                TC there hospital resource use chart is incorrect.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                It shows 20184 all beds available, actual number is 53368. Though the graphic looks correct, but not the numbers.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                It shows 1695 ICU beds available actual number is 6929.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                This is the potential problem with most of the models, garbage in garbage out.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • #145335
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                TC
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Noted, thanks for the correction and heads up. :good:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • #145366
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  LittleBigBill
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Interesting report on the national news (I think it was NBC, but it might have been CBS) concerning the high rate of Covid-19 positive test, and deaths among Blacks. The report featured how the response was not adequate to protect minorities from the virus…

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Really??

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    It is an equal opportunity virus…. initially, if your have underlying issues, you’re more at stake of getting the virus.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • #145369
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    trailman
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Interesting report on the national news (I think it was NBC, but it might have been CBS) concerning the high rate of Covid-19 positive test, and deaths among Blacks. The report featured how the response was not adequate to protect minorities from the virus…

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Really??

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      It is an equal opportunity virus…. initially, if your have underlying issues, you’re more at stake of getting the virus.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Yeah of course, heart disease, diabetes and hypertension are the main “contributing circumstances” to deaths from Capt Trips and are rampant in the African American community..

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • #145383
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Updated as of Mon 4/6/2020 06:02 PM ET

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Florida Resident Hospitalization

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1719 (+164 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Florida Resident COVID-19 Deaths

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        254 (+33 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Florida Hospital Bed/ICU availability

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Bed is 43.56% (decreased 1.16% in last 24 hours) available of 61,144 total capacity

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Adult ICU is 38.60% (decreased 1.22% in last 24 hours) available of 6929 total capacity

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Pediatric ICU is 48.36% (decreased 2.03% in last 24 hours) available of 658 total capacity

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Florida hospitals continue to have sufficient space to treat COVID-19 patients.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • #145395
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Ronin42
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          i’ve seen reports, and articles of national guard setting up road blocks in Rhode island, and doing door to door searches.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          is this true?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          did max call that miles away?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          this was the only one i can find easily

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          mvt alumni CTT & DCH
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          some other schools..

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          part time tactical couch potato

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • #145403
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Rhode island, and doing door to door searches.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Heard of this and can’t confirm it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            My first thought is…

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            “Imagine that? Socialist controlled areas doing socialist things. I am shocked!” (sarcasm)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            B-)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • #145408
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Ronin42
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              lol, fair enough.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              just bothered me a bit. made me glad its been on the mild side where i am, even if its a soft martial law.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              kinda wondering how my friends in Louisiana is doing, ive seen some odd stories there, other than the New Orleans mayor.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              interesting times ahead

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              mvt alumni CTT & DCH
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              some other schools..

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              part time tactical couch potato

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • #145418
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              DuaneH
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                So my Reserve Medical unit was activated on 72 hrs notice for 6 months which means actually 3-12 months. (I transferred into the IRR in October. I was afraid that under the new Ready Force X model that I would be activated on short notice for an indeterminate time which would mean I would have to go out and find another job when I came back to civilian life).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                TO maintain the spirit of OPSEC I will say that they are going somewhere in the northeast to establish a care unit to take care of those recovering from CV19. Essentially a stepdown unit.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Don’t read too much into this. I was not surprised in the least that it happened. I was expecting it sooner. Beginning Jan2018 my unit (and many others in the Reserves) were put on 90 day alert as part of Ready Force X. We were assigned as backup for a very specific mission and after a year became primary because the original primary could not meet mission.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                For the laymen my unit (aside from CSH) is the tip of the spear in the Reserve Medical world. So first to go.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                If there is broader call up of Reserve Medical assets then I know shit is really getting real and I will have to pull my uniform out of the attic. (probably doesn’t fit anymore).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • This reply was modified 3 months ago by DuaneH.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • #145467
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Updated as of Tue 4/7/2020 11:14 AM ET

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Florida Resident Hospitalization

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1893 (+174 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Florida Resident COVID-19 Deaths

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  283 (+29 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Florida Hospital Bed/ICU availability

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Bed is 43.44% (decreased 0.12% in last 24 hours) available of 61,144 total capacity

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Adult ICU is 37.71% (decreased 0.89% in last 24 hours) available of 6929 total capacity

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Pediatric ICU is 44.63% (decreased 3.73% in last 24 hours) available of 658 total capacity

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Florida hospitals continue to have sufficient space to treat COVID-19 patients.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • #145469
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    …just bothered me a bit.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    It bothers me too, but this is what they have chosen by allowing those type of politicians in positions of power!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    This is why I’ve told people to abandon such cesspools.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    They have too many Socialists to change anything and let’s face it “that’s not where the second shot heard round the world will be fired.” ;-)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • #145482
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Ronin42
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      fair enough

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      If there is broader call up of Reserve Medical assets then I know shit is really getting real and I will have to pull my uniform out of the attic. (probably doesn’t fit anymore).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      if it makes you feel better, after all this stay at home crap, most peoples uniforms wont fit well either.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      it’s all i can do to maintain with no gym.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      miss my workouts :scratch:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • This reply was modified 3 months ago by Ronin42.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      mvt alumni CTT & DCH
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      some other schools..

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      part time tactical couch potato

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • #145489
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Robin Turner
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        They are telling us that we should wear masks (we make from bandanas, old socks, paper towels, etc.) out in public. However, they tell us that the masks won’t protect us, rather they are to protect other people from us. Can the virus somehow crawl into our masks, but not out? That advice, like much of the BS surrounding this situation seems to defy logic.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • #145490
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        wheelsee
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          However, they tell us that the masks won’t protect us, rather they are to protect other people from us. Can the virus somehow crawl into our masks, but not out? That advice, like much of the BS surrounding this situation seems to defy logic.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          The primary reason (as I understand it) for wearing masks in public is to help prevent the spread of droplets while we sneeze or cough. Allergy season is coming full force in DFW – people are already skittish, so watch them when someone starts sneezing or coughing. Like washing hands, unfortunately most don’t know how to cover when sneezing or coughing. Both should be done into the crook of your elbow to prevent aerosolizing droplets with potential uptake by someone around you.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          So, we’re told 6′ for social distancing. How accurate is that?? Good question, lets look at the science. https://universityhealthnews.com/daily/eyes-ears-nose-throat/how-far-does-a-sneeze-travel/
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          They found about 200 FEET.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          By US wearing a mask, we’re helping to limit this travel to a few inches.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          And BTW – be sure to wash and dry on high heat your mask (if cloth) daily. Right now, we’re reusing masks – wear it all day today, can wear it again in 6 days (we store in paper bags with out names on them). But don’t worry, this is likely to change…. again……and again :yes:

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Robin Turner
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Thanks for your explanation!
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Good luck with the mask situation!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            wheelsee
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              (we store in paper bags with OUR names on them).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Correction above – should be OUR names

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Joe (G.W.N.S.)
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Updated as of Wed 4/8/2020 06:22 PM ET

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Florida Resident Hospitalization

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                2081 (+188 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Florida Resident COVID-19 Deaths

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                323 (+40 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Florida Hospital Bed/ICU availability

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Bed is 44.0% (increased 0.56% in last 24 hours) available of 62,598 total capacity

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Adult ICU is 38.98% (increased 1.27% in last 24 hours) available of 6929 total capacity

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Pediatric ICU is 42.86% (decreased 1.77% in last 24 hours) available of 658 total capacity

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Florida hospitals continue to have sufficient space to treat COVID-19 patients.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                fabio
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  SECNAV has been sending memos for several months on various topics, missions, etc. He calls them “Vectors.” Here is his last.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Joe (G.W.N.S.)
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Updated as of Thu 4/9/2020 07:28 PM ET

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Florida Resident Hospitalization

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    2298 (+217 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Florida Resident COVID-19 Deaths

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    371 (+48 in last 24 hours)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Florida Hospital Bed/ICU availability

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Bed is 43.97% (decreased 0.03% in last 24 hours) available of 62,598 total capacity

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Adult ICU is 39.07% (increased 0.09% in last 24 hours) available of 6929 total capacity

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Pediatric ICU is 44.29% (increased 1.43% in last 24 hours) available of 658 total capacity

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Florida hospitals continue to have sufficient space to treat COVID-19 patients.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    As an example even Miami/Dade our hardest hit County has 356 ICU beds and 4035 standard beds available.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    First Sergeant
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Horowitz: It’s time to end the great American COVID-19 police state

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      FILO
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Signal Out, Can You Identify
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Je ne regrette rien
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      In Orbe Terrum Non Visi

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      DiznNC
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        My wife works in healthcare. She talks to folks from all over the country. Right now what they are seeing is the consequence of clearing all decks for this thing, and not having it be as bad as they thought. You have your hot spots to be sure, but in many other places, the hospitals are sitting with many empty beds, simply because there are not enough virus patients to fill them. Staff have been sent home or laid off because there is not enough work. No one wants to say anything because it doesn’t fit the narrative and they don’t want to draw heat. People with legit medical issues wait for treatment in a system that is no were near capacity in many places.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        So the up shot of us this. We appear to have over-reacted, across the board, because we thought it would spread like it did in very dense populations, with lots of already health-compromised individuals. So many communities are suffering the effects of their health care systems being shut down, to them, just to sit idle.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Now you can say well that’s because we all stayed at home, or practiced social distancing, but personally I don’t think that’s the whole story. To be sure, these measures helped, but I would submit, that by already being in less-dense areas, and being possibly more healthy overall than these inner-city dwellers, I think we had an effect much like Russia, where we were already well situated to handle something like this.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        And again, not be a heartless bastard, but, according to their predictions, we should have been at something approaching 100,000 casualties by now, Instead we are at 15,000. And as Joe has pointed out, several times, around 7,000 people die every day in the US. So this virus, as bad as it is, is no where near the main cause of death as the media breathlessly reports it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        “Amusing” side bit. Our local .gov requested a 3,000 bed emergency Army hospital facility for all the projected casualties. When they didn’t materialize, they quietly down-sized their order to 3,000 beds. It just hasn’t materialized. I think we have had 19 deaths locally.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        DiznNC
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Evidently I can’t read or add. Down-sized to 300 beds. Must be the virus.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Former Sapper
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Decreased availability of shore leave for sailors as seen in NAVTEX messages:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            ZCZC NA90
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            30709 UTC MAR 20
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            NORWEGIAN NAV. WARNING 275/2020
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            CHART ALLE
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            AREA HELE NORGE
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            TO PREVENT THE SPREAD OF CORONA VIRUS,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            SEVERAL NORWEGIAN POLICE DISTRICTS HAVE IMPLEMENTED RESTRICTIONS ON SHORE LEAVE. SHIPS ARE ADVISED TO CONTACT PORT AUTHORETIES IN THEIR NEXT PORT OF CALL FOR FURTHER INFORMATION.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            NNNN

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Could lead to other issues down the line if crew aren’t getting the chance to relax ashore.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • #145590
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            DiznNC
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Actually that’s been SOP since 1775. Put Marines on big gray boat. Fuck with their pay. Fuck with their mail. Fuck with their chow. Fuck with their sleep. Fuck with their shore leave. Repeat as often as possible. Then drop them off on some beach. The rest is history.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              trailman
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Decreased availability of shore leave for sailors as seen in NAVTEX messages:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Could lead to other issues down the line if crew aren’t getting the chance to relax ashore.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Really, is that what the caliber of our forces are like now? I recall doing 45 days on a frigate in the north Atlantic doing box ops on Soviet boomers in December. All we got was gas, parts and the occasional mail. You know mail like in handwritten letters, IF the pony express would fly from the tender. No internet, facetime, no social media. No seatbelts on the chairs. By day 30 even the powdered, milk and eggs were gone, we had some kind of hamburger patty concoction poured over stuff for lunch and dinner. I remember one eventful evening taking a roll in the mess decks and the entire congregation and their dinner was plastered on the starboard bulkhead. We even smoked on watch in the CIC, God forbid. It’s a wonder I survived. ;-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                trailman
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Just an update

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  13 April 2020

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  COVID-19 Statistics in Maryland
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Number of Confirmed Cases: 8,936
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Number of negative test results: 42,815
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Number of Deaths: 262
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Hospitalizations: 1,975 ever hospitalized
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Released From Isolation: 603
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Cases and Deaths by County (deaths):

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Allegany 15
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Anne Arundel 724 (29)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Baltimore City 873 (26)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Baltimore County1,361 (31)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Calvert 94 (1)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Caroline 21
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Carroll 250 (28)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Cecil 83 (1)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Charles 274 (10)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Dorchester 12 (1)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Frederick 417 (12)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Garrett 4
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Harford 142
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Howard 386 (8)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Kent 11
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Montgomery 1,756 (48)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Prince George’s 2,205 (63)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Queen Anne’s 19
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  St. Mary’s 95 (1)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Somerset 6
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Talbot 16 (1)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Washington 93 (1)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Wicomico 58 (1)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Worcester 21
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Cases and Deaths by Age Range and Gender (deaths):

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  0-9 63
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  10-19 190
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  20-29 970 (1)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  30-39 1,511 (9)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  40-49 1,637 (5)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  50-59 1,801 (26)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  60-69 1,317 (58)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  70-79 877 (73)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  80+ 570 (90)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Female: 4,831 (117)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Male: 4,105 (145)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Cases and Deaths by Race (deaths):

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  African-American 3,202 (104)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Asian 190 (8)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  White 2,305 (83)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Other 861 (12)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Data not available 1,667 (28)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  And FWIW about EVERY death in my county has had pre-existing conditions ro was very elderly, last two were in their 80s & 90s

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • #145852
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  DiznNC
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    OK crisis officially over. My local grocery store had TP in stock.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    The city gov geniuses now dropped their request for a mobile hospital altogether. Seems the cases just didn’t materialize as expected and local facilities have beds and respirators sitting unused.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Char-Meck county: 19 deaths. My county: ZERO.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    But don’t compare this to flu. Every year over 500,000 get some kind of flu. Between 30-60,000 die of it. The country was never shut down. This flu has killed roughly a third of the average (OK so far) and they want to keep the country shut down. That’s political agenda, not necessity.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • #145853
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Moderator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      That’s political agenda, not necessity.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      :good:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • #145917
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Lloyd
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        These Charts Put the Historic U.S. Job Losses in Perspective

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        These Charts Put the Historic U.S. Job Losses in Perspective

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        MVT Texas 2015-2020
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Team Cowbell / Team Coyote / Team Rekkr

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • #145922
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        DiznNC
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          And it’s just political bullshit. I talked again with healthcare workers. They are saying that patients who actually died of other causes are being marked down as flu victims, if there’s any connection whatsoever. The hospitals are being incentivized to get the flu death numbers up. They actually get a 15% surcharge if they treated an virus-connected patient. The percentages of deaths are being skewed big time. It could turn out the numbers are no more than any other flu. Which is bad, no doubt, but not the fucking catastrophe it’s being made out to be.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          At this point, the dire predictions are just not panning out. Our local healthcare systems just announced that local facilities can handle all cases, with plenty of ICU and ventilator capacity. The massive infection and death rates never materialized.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          You quarantine those with the infection, not the whole fucking population. This was a total shit show. Local businesses are being punished for daring to make money on their own and not being dependent on big gov. This thing stinks on ice.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          DuaneH
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            So some of the local stores are requiring their workers to wear face masks and asking customers to wear masks.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            So to avoid any strange looks and to show that I am a team player I went out and got me a mask.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I say if you are going to wear a mask, wear a mask.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Lloyd
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              MVT Texas 2015-2020
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Team Cowbell / Team Coyote / Team Rekkr

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • #146448
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                AntMan
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I almost wish AI was that powerful. I wouldn’t have to work anymore I could let the computers do it for me. And then I could name them skynet…

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  2xcqbc
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              • #146445
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Lloyd
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  After watching the video above, read this:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  https://www.alt-market.com/index.php/articles/3969-why-is-the-elitist-establishment-so-obsessed-with-meat

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  MVT Texas 2015-2020
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • #146453
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Robin Turner
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    One more way to attempt to control us. Guessing the Obamas will still enjoy their Kobe beef!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  • #146882
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    riflemaniv
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Participant

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Doesn’t seem like a valid reason to shut all of PA down.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Letter
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Many of our county coroners are disputing the official deaths being reported by the Governor.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • #146969
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Lloyd
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        MVT Texas 2015-2020
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Team Cowbell / Team Coyote / Team Rekkr

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      • #146978
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        AntMan
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I just found this gem from America’s cess pool. Everyone that answered NY’s call for additional health care workers as volunteers, will have to pay NY income tax if they were still being paid by their position at home.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          https://www.pix11.com/news/coronavirus/health-workers-that-volunteered-to-come-to-ny-during-pandemic-have-to-pay-state-income-tax-cuomo

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • #147149
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Joe (G.W.N.S.)
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            ‘Bloodshed in the streets’? Cop suspended for defying lockdown orders

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Excerpt:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            The Port of Seattle Police Department has suspended an officer who chastised colleagues across the nation who he says are enforcing coronavirus lockdown orders in violation of their oaths to uphold the U.S. Constitution.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          • #147908
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            wheelsee
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              What happens when government over-reaches in its authority.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              The initial governor’s orders
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              https://gov.texas.gov/news/post/governor-abbott-issues-executive-order-increasing-hospital-capacity-announces-supply-chain-strike-force-for-covid-19-response

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              How the Texas Medical Board would enforce said orders
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              http://www.tmb.state.tx.us/dl/27277A3D-2F5E-1395-E868-98D48D432C1A

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              And the results of above orders – BSW lost $1 Billion (yes, with a B) since COVID19

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Baylor Scott & White To Lay Off 1,200 employees; Others Will Be Furloughed

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              As of last Wednesday (5/20)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Texas has reported 47,784 positive cases and 1,336 related deaths.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Dallas County (where Baylor Univ Med Center is located) has reported 7,250 confirmed cases and 170 COVID-19 related deaths.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • #149991
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              fabio
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                SUBJ/CUSFF/NAVNORTH FRAGORD 20-024.013 IN RESPONSE TO CORONAVIRUS DISEASE 2019 (COVID-19)//

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                REF/A-CS/NO CHANGE//

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                REF/CT/RMG/COMUSFLTFORCOM/172330ZJUN20//

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                AMPN/REF CT IS CUSFF/NAVNORTH FRAGORD 20-024.012 IN RESPONSE TO COVID-19.//

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                NARR/(U) CUSFF/NAVNORTH FRAGORD 20-024.013 TO CUSFF/NAVNORTH EXECUTE ORDER (EXORD) IN RESPONSE TO COVID-19 UPDATES GUIDANCE REGARDING CONDITIONS-BASED HPCON CHANGES.//

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                GENTEXT/SITUATION//

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. (U) SITUATION. NO CHANGE.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                2. (U) MISSION. NO CHANGE.//

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                GENTEXT/EXECUTION//

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                3. (U) EXECUTION. CHANGE.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                3.A (U) COMMANDER?S INTENT.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                3.A.1. (U) AS WE EXECUTE A CONDITIONS-BASED APPROACH TO BOTH HPCON CHANGES AND THE LIFTING OF TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS, WE MUST STILL ENSURE THE HEALTH OF THE FORCE AND GUARANTEE MISSION ASSURANCE. COVID-19 IS NOT ERADICATED. IT STILL PRESENTS RISK TO OUR SERVICE MEMBERS, CIVILIAN WORKFORCE, AND THEIR FAMILIES. LIKEWISE, THE MANY VECTORS

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                THIS VIRUS CAN TAKE TO INFILTRATE OUR FORCE MAKES IT A CONTINUED THREAT TO MISSION ASSURANCE, A ZERO FAILURE MISSION. WE ARE LEVERAGING THE OPERATIONAL ENVIRONMENT TO MAKE RISK-BASED DECISIONS IN SHIFTING HPCON AND OPENING UP OF INSTALLATION SERVICES. IN SOME LOCALITIES, THE EASING OF COMMUNITY RESTRICTIONS IS NOT ALIGNED WITH THE NAVY IMPERATIVE TO MAINTAIN COVID INFECTION AS LOW AS ACHIEVABLE ACROSS THE FORCE. WE BEAR AN OBLIGATION TO MAINTAIN THE ABILITY TO MAN AND TAKE OUR SHIPS TO SEA, OFTEN ON SHORT NOTICE. IT IS THEREFORE ESSENTIAL THAT EVERY ONE OF US TAKES PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY TO LIMIT

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                THE SPREAD OF THIS DISEASE. ASYMPTOMATIC SPREAD IS A REALITY AND ONE MISSTEP OPENS A POTENTIAL ATTACK VECTOR FOR THIS VIRUS. WE MUST STAY VIGILANT IN EXECUTION OF FORCE HEALTH PROTECTION GUIDANCE AND WE MUST HOLD OURSELVES AND EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE FOR OUR ACTIONS. MEDICAL INTELLIGENCE ANALYSIS IS CLEAR. INACTION OR ?MIS-ACTION? RELATED TO MITIGATION MEASURES PUTS OUR TEAM, FAMILY MEMBERS, FLEET, AND MISSION AT RISK. I EXPECT ALL COMMANDERS TO DISSEMINATE THIS DIRECTION TO ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMAND, ENSURING EVERY SAILOR HAS A COMPLETE UNDERSTANDING OF THE ENVIRONMENT THEY ARE OPERATING IN AND THE GUIDANCE THEY ARE OPERATING UNDER.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                3.A.2. (U) UNTIL HPCON B IS SET, HPCON C MINUS REMAINS IN EFFECT.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                THIS WILL VARY BY BOTH STATE AND INSTALLATION, AND QUITE POSSIBLY INSTALLATIONS WITHIN THE SAME STATE.//

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                4. (U) CONCEPT OF OPERATIONS. NO CHANGE.//

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5. (U) TASKS. CHANGE.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7. (U) CHANGE. THIS FRAGO CANCELS AND SUPERSEDES PARAGRAPHS 5.A.7.A. THROUGH 5.A.7.L. OF REF BM (COVID-19 EXORD 20-024). AS INDIVIDUAL STATES AND MUNICIPALITIES BEGIN TO REOPEN SERVICES AND REDUCE HEALTH-RELATED RESTRICTIONS, COMMANDS AND SERVICE MEMBERS SHALL MAINTAIN SECDEF DIRECTED AND CUSFF/NAVNORTH IMPLEMENTED HPCON C MINUS FORCE HEALTH PROTECTION MEASURES (FHP) BOTH ON AND OFF INSTALLATION; EVEN WHEN THOSE RESTRICTIONS/MEASURES ARE MORE STRINGENT THAN THOSE PLACED ON THE GENERAL PUBLIC, AND EVEN WHERE THE STATE IS DEPICTED AS GREEN ON THE NAVY TRAVEL TRACKER IMPLEMENTED IN

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                REFERENCE CO AND DISPLAYED ON MYNAVY PORTAL. ACCORDINGLY, HPCON C MINUS MEASURES REMAIN IN EFFECT UNTIL HPCON AT AN INSTALLATION IS LOWERED TO HPCON B, INCLUDING LIFTING OF STOP MOVEMENT TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS-BASED PHASED APPROACH PROCESS DETAILED IN REFERENCE CS. DOD CIVILIAN AND CONTRACT PERSONNEL AND FAMILY MEMBERS ARE STRONGLY ENCOURAGED TO COMPLY WITH THIS MORE STRINGENT GUIDANCE TO MINIMIZE THE RISK OF INFECTING SERVICE MEMBERS.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.A. (U) HPCON C MINUS MEASURES IN THE CUSFF/NAVNORTH COVID-19 EXORD 20-024 ARE APPLICABLE TO ALL CONUS-BASED ECHELON II COMMANDS, NUMBERED FLEET COMMANDS, TYPE COMMANDS, REGION COMMANDS, AND THEIR SUBORDINATES. THESE HPCON C MINUS MEASURES INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.A.1. (U) CANCEL UNIT AND INSTALLATION SPONSORED EVENTS.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.A.2. (U) ISSUE INSTRUCTIONS TO PERSONNEL TO AVOID LARGE PUBLIC GATHERINGS AND PRACTICE SOCIAL DISTANCING.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.A.3. (U) MAXIMIZE TELEWORK PLANS FOR TELEWORK READY EMPLOYEES.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.A.4. (U) CANCEL LARGE PUBLIC GATHERINGS ON INSTALLATIONS.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.A.5. (U) RE-SCOPE, MODIFY, DELAY, OR CANCEL UPCOMING EXERCISES.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.A.6. (U) CONTINUE TO APPROVE LEAVE AND TRAVEL TO AND FROM THE

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                AREA ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS (IAW OPNAV, CUSFF/NAVNORTH AND PACFLT GUIDANCE, AUTHORITIES AND DIRECTIVES).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.A.7. (U) COORDINATE WITH STATE AND LOCAL AUTHORITIES TO SYNCHRONIZE IN-GARRISON SELF-MONITORING GUIDANCE FOR PERSONNEL RETURNING FROM HIGHER RISK LOCATIONS (PREVIOUS ROM GUIDANCE).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.A.8. (U) ASSESS TRAVELERS, IAW CURRENT GUIDANCE, UPON ARRIVAL FROM OTHER AREAS. INFORM THEM OF ANY LOCAL MONITORING AND MOVEMENT EXPECTATIONS.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.A.9. (U) EVALUATE OPERATIONS AT VISITOR CONTROL CENTERS. UTILIZE ELECTRONIC MEANS TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT POSSIBLE TO GRANT INSTALLATION ACCESS. DISCONTINUE WAITING ROOM UTILIZATION IF SOCIAL DISTANCING CANNOT BE MAINTAINED. IF NECESSARY, DIRECT CUSTOMERS TO

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                SECONDARY HOLDING AREAS UNTIL CALLED.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.A.10. (U) ALL COMMANDS COORDINATE WITH CONTRACTORS, VENDORS, DELIVERY SERVICES, ETC., TO ENSURE THEIR PERSONNEL ARE NOT PERFORMING SERVICES WHILE SICK OR SYMPTOMATIC.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.A.11. (U) EVERY EFFORT TO LIMIT COVID-19 EXPOSURE TO THE WORKFORCE SHOULD BE IMPLEMENTED WHILE BALANCING THE MISSION REQUIREMENTS ESTABLISHED BY LOCAL COMMANDERS.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.B. (U) CUSFF/NAVNORTH DIRECTS THE FOLLOWING HPCON C MINUS MEASURES FOR SERVICE MEMBERS ASSIGNED TO CONUS-BASED ECHELON II COMMANDS, NUMBERED FLEET COMMANDS, TYPE COMMANDS, REGION COMMANDS, AND THEIR SUBORDINATES.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.B.1. (U) MAINTAIN A PHYSICAL DISTANCE OF AT LEAST SIX FEET FROM OTHERS WHEN YOU ARE IN CLOSE CONTACT FOR FIFTEEN (15) OR MORE MINUTES AND, TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PRACTICAL, WEAR CLOTH FACE COVERINGS WHEN YOU ARE IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH OTHERS FOR FIFTEEN (15) OR MORE MINUTES AND ARE UNABLE TO MAINTAIN SIX FEET OF PHYSICAL DISTANCE.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.B.2. (U) TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT POSSIBLE DO NOT GATHER IN GROUPS OF OVER 10 PEOPLE.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.B.3. (U) LIMIT TRAVEL TO/FROM PLACE OF RESIDENCE/WORK WITH STOPS ONLY FOR ESSENTIAL BUSINESS (FOOD, MEDICAL, PHARMACY, GAS, AND CHILD CARE SERVICES).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.B.4. (U) SERVICE MEMBERS ARE PROHIBITED FROM VISITING, PATRONIZING, OR ENGAGING IN THE FOLLOWING OFF-INSTALLATION SPECIFIC FACILITIES, SERVICES, OR ACTIVITIES. OBSERVE GUIDANCE PROVIDED BY REGIONAL AND INSTALLATION COMMANDERS REGARDING USE OF ON-INSTALLATION

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                SERVICES.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.B.4.A. (U) RECREATIONAL SWIMMING POOLS, GYMS, FITNESS FACILITIES, EXERCISE CLASSES, SAUNAS, SPAS, AND SALONS

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.B.4.B. (U) TATTOO/BODY ART/PIERCING PARLORS

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.B.4.C. (U) BARBER SHOPS, HAIR OR NAIL SALONS, AND MASSAGE PARLORS

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.B.4.D. (U) CINEMAS/THEATERS

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.B.4.E. (U) PARTICIPATION IN TEAM/ORGANIZED SPORTS

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.B.4.F. (U) DINE-IN RESTAURANTS (TAKE-OUT AUTHORIZED), BARS, NIGHT CLUBS, CASINOS, CONFERENCES, SPORTING EVENTS, CONCERTS, PUBLIC CELEBRATIONS, PARADES, PUBLIC BEACHES, AMUSEMENT PARKS OR OTHER EVENTS DESIGNED TO PROMOTE LARGE GATHERINGS, TO INCLUDE INDOOR RELIGIOUS SERVICES.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.B.4.G. (U) OUTDOOR RECREATION WHERE COMMON USE FACILITIES ARE USED AND IF A MINIMUM OF SIX FEET PHYSICAL DISTANCING CANNOT BE MAINTAINED.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.B.4.H. (U) NON-ESSENTIAL COMMERCIAL RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS AND SHOPPING MALLS.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.B.5. (U) TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PRACTICAL, SERVICE MEMBERS, GOVERNMENT CIVILIANS, FAMILY MEMBERS, AND CONTRACT EMPLOYEES SHOULD MINIMIZE UNNECESSARY IN-PERSON USE OF THE FOLLOWING SERVICES AND ACTIVITIES. IF THESE SERVICES AND ACTIVITIES MUST BE UTILIZED,

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                PRUDENT PRECAUTIONS (INCLUDING MANDATORY PHYSICAL DISTANCING AND USE OF CLOTH FACE COVERINGS) SHALL BE EXERCISED. THE BELOW LIST IS ALL INCLUSIVE:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.B.5.A. (U) USE OF MASS TRANSIT (BUS, RAIL, OR FERRY)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.B.5.B. (U) AUTO REPAIR, MAINTENANCE, AND ANNUAL INSPECTION.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.B.5.C. (U) CURB-SIDE AND DRIVE THROUGH SERVICES

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.B.5.D. (U) IN-HOME DOMESTIC SERVICES (HOME MAINTENANCE/REPAIR AND LAWN SERVICES).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.B.5.E. (U) DRIVE-IN SPIRITUAL SERVICES

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.B.5.F. (U) BANKING SERVICES

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.B.5.G. (U) PET CARE AND VETERINARY SERVICES

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.B.5.H. (U) POST OFFICE

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.B.5.I. (U) LAUNDRY SERVICES, DRY CLEANING

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.B.5.J. (U) IN-RESIDENCE SOCIAL GATHERINGS THAT INCLUDE MORE THAN TEN (10) GUESTS THAT DO NOT RESIDE IN THE RESIDENCE. IN-RESIDENCE SOCIAL GATHERINGS ARE STRONGLY DISCOURAGED IF ANYONE RESIDING IN THE HOME IS COVID-19 POSITIVE OR INFLUENZA LIKE ILLNESS (ILI) SYMPTOMATIC.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.C. (U) ALTHOUGH THE RELAXATION OF STATE AND LOCAL RESTRICTIONS, ALONG WITH ANY APPROVED TRANSITION TO HPCON B, AFFORDS SERVICE MEMBERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO RETURN TO ACTIVITIES SUCH AS DINING-OUT, ATTENDING PUBLIC GATHERINGS AND FREQUENTING RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS, WE MUST RECOGNIZE THAT THESE ACTIVITIES WILL CONTINUE TO POSE RISK TO OUR FORCE AND THEREFORE WE MUST REMAIN VIGILANT IN OUR FORCE HEALTH PROTECTION MEASURES.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.C.1. (U) IF AN INSTALLATION HAS BEEN APPROVED TO TRANSITION TO HPCON B, INCLUDING LIFTING OF STOP MOVEMENT TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS, CUSFF/NAVNORTH DIRECTS THE FOLLOWING HPCON B MEASURES FOR SERVICE MEMBERS ASSIGNED TO CONUS-BASED ECHELON II COMMANDS, NUMBERED FLEET COMMANDS, TYPE COMMANDS, REGION COMMANDS, AND THEIR SUBORDINATES.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.C.1.A (U) MAINTAIN A PHYSICAL DISTANCE OF AT LEAST SIX FEET FROM OTHERS WHEN YOU ARE IN CLOSE CONTACT FOR FIFTEEN (15) OR MORE MINUTES AND, TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PRACTICAL, WEAR CLOTH FACE COVERINGS WHEN YOU ARE IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH OTHERS FOR FIFTEEN (15)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                OR MORE MINUTES AND ARE UNABLE TO MAINTAIN SIX FEET OF PHYSICAL DISTANCE.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.C.1.B (U) OBSERVE GUIDANCE PROVIDED BY REGIONAL AND INSTALLATION COMMANDERS REGARDING USE OF ON-INSTALLATION SERVICES.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.C.1.C (U) COMPLY WITH HEALTH PROTECTION RESTRICTIONS/MEASURES ESTABLISHED BY LOCAL CIVIL AUTHORITIES.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.C.1.D (U) OBSERVE WORKPLACE RELATED COVID 19 MITIGATION MEASURES ESTABLISHED BY YOUR RESPECTIVE CHAIN OF COMMAND.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.D. (U) THE MEASURES PROMULGATED IN THIS MESSAGE DO NOT RESCIND PREVIOUSLY IMPLEMENTED PRE- OR POST- DEPLOYMENT/UNDERWAY OPERATIONS RESTRICTION OF MOVEMENT AND TESTING REQUIREMENTS AND ARE TO APPLY TO AT-SEA UNITS, IF APPLICABLE.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.E. (U) THE PROHIBITIONS IN PARA 5.A.7.B.1. THROUGH PARA 5.A.7.B.4.H. ARE ESSENTIAL TO SAFEGUARD THE HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELFARE OF OUR SERVICE MEMBERS AND TO ENSURE MISSION READINESS AND ASSURANCE. THIS IS A LAWFUL GENERAL ORDER UNDER ARTICLE 92 OF THE UNIFORM CODE OF MILITARY JUSTICE (UCMJ). ANY PERSON SUBJECT TO THE UCMJ WHO VIOLATES OR FAILS TO OBEY THIS ORDER MAY BE SUBJECT TO ADVERSE ADMINISTRATIVE AND/OR DISCIPLINARY ACTION. GOVERNMENT CIVILIANS, FAMILY MEMBERS, AND CONTRACT EMPLOYEES ARE STRONGLY ENCOURAGED TO COMPLY WITH THIS SAME GUIDANCE. COMMANDERS HAVE AUTHORITY TO EXCLUDE ACCESS TO DOD FACILITIES FOR 14 DAYS FOR ANYONE WHO IS KNOWN TO HAVE VISITED, PATRONIZED, OR ENGAGED IN THE FACILITIES, SERVICES, OR ACTIVITIES IN PARA 5.A.7.B.1. THROUGH 5.A.7.B.4.H.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.F. (U) INSTALLATION COMMANDING OFFICERS, AND AS APPROPRIATE REGION COMMANDERS, WILL HOST TENANT COMMAND LEADERSHIP MEETINGS TO REVIEW HPCON MEASURES IN EFFECT AND TO IDENTIFY MISSION IMPACTS. PROVIDE PERIODIC REPORTS TO ALL TENANT COMMAND LEADERSHIP ON THE STATUS OF INSTALLATION SUPPORT MODIFICATIONS/FUNCTIONS.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.G. (U) ALL CONUS-BASED ECHELON II COMMANDERS, NUMBERED FLEET COMMANDERS, TYPE COMMANDERS, REGION COMMANDERS, AND THEIR SUBORDINATE COMMANDERS AND COMMANDING OFFICERS ARE DIRECTED TO:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.G.1. (U) BRIEF THE ABOVE DIRECTED HPCON CHARLIE MINUS AND BRAVO MEASURES TO ALL COMMAND PERSONNEL NOT LATER THAN 29 JUNE 2020.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.G.2. (U) ISSUE APPROPRIATE PAGE 13 TO DOCUMENT TRAINING.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.G.3. (U) SUBORDINATE COMMANDERS AND COMMANDING OFFICERS SHALL REPORT COMPLETION OF THIS TASK VIA THEIR ADMINISTRATIVE CHAIN OF COMMAND NOT LATER THAN 01 JULY 2020.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.G.3.A. (U) COMPLETION REPORT WILL INCLUDE A PLAN OF ACTION (POA) THAT INCORPORATES MEASURES OF EFFECTIVENESS (MOE) TO ENSURE AN ENDURING BATTLE RHYTHM OF COMMUNICATION IS MAINTAINED TO GUARANTEE COMPLACENCY OR LACK OF DILIGENCE IN ADHERENCE DOES NOT SET IN OVER TIME. LEVERAGE MOE ANALYSIS TO DETERMINE IF EFFORTS ARE ON/OFF/NEW PLAN REQUIRED. FOLLOW UP MOE REPORTING WILL BE EVERY TWO WEEKS STARTING 15 JULY.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.G.3.A.1. (U) POA EXAMPLES: OPERATIONAL PAUSES/SAFETY STAND-DOWNS, WEEKLY NOTES IN THE COMMAND POW, DAILY UPDATES VIA EMAIL AND QUARTERS, INFORMATION POSTED ON OFFICIAL COMMAND SOCIAL MEDIA SITES, CO LETTERS, QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS AND EMAILS TO OMBUDSMAN AND THE COMMAND FRG, COMMAND LEADERSHIP SPOT CHECKS AND PRINTED INFORMATIONAL MATERIALS TO BE POSTED IN COMMAND SPACES. IF COMMANDS HAVE THE ABILITY, 1MC, SITE TV AND PRINTED INFORMATION CARDS ARE OTHER OPTIONS.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.G.3.A.2. (U) POA EXAMPLES ARE NOT MEANT TO BE LIMITING.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                LEVERAGE ALL AVAILABLE RESOURCES AND PUBLISHED GUIDANCE. EFFECTIVE, PERSISTENT COMMUNICATION THROUGHOUT THE CHAIN OF COMMAND IS PARAMOUNT TO MAINTAIN THE HEALTH OF OUR FORCE AND MISSIONS.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5.A.7.G.4. (U) CONUS-BASED ECHELON II AND III COMMANDERS SHALL EMAIL COMPLETION REPORTS TO THE USFF/NAVNORTH BATTLE WATCH CAPTAIN (BWC.FFC.FCT(AT)NAVY.MIL) NOT LATER THAN 02 JULY 2020. PROVIDE FOLLOW ON EMAIL UPDATES TO CUSFF EVERY TWO WEEKS STARTING 15 JULY.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                UPDATES SHALL INCLUDE SUBORDINATE COMMAND MOE ASSESSMENTS TO ENSURE FORCE HEALTH PROTECTION CONTINUED EFFECTIVENESS.//

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  So in South Carolina every municipality including the ones that don’t even have a traffic light are enacting face mask laws enforceable with fines. Various wordings and exceptions. IE my local city requires them in retail businesses, but not the gyms. Thank goodness for small favors as my gym is in the city limits.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I don’t follow the news minute by minute and I don’t spend every waking moment analyzing the covid situation, but it just crossed my mind as I was looking at travel restrictions for our upcoming vacation. The northern states have self quarantine rules for people coming from virus ‘hot spots’ which is most of the southeast. The northern states rate of infection is going down while the southern states is going up.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  So what happened was the initial ‘outbreak’ was worse in the cities of the northeast and all the social distancing and other stuff slowed down the transmission. Now it has worked its way down south and we are where the northern states were a few months ago.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  In other words: all the rules and regs slowed it down, but it hasn’t stopped it from running its course.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Not to mention the death rate is down.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I predict that this will all calm down after the election.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I predict that this will all calm down after the election.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Imagine that! ;-)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Not to mention the death rate is down.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Despite the increase in cases, both COVID-19 related death rates and hospitalizations are down in Florida, despite propaganda to the contrary.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Mask mandates have been left to county and city Governments.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Mostly the Socialist controlled areas mandating masks, with some exceptions like Jacksonville.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Though Jacksonville has no fines or other means of enforcement at this time.

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