Basha Rigging Kit

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    • #104457
      tango
      Participant

        I’ve been tinkering a little bit with shelter setup and this is the hardware I carry to setup my basha. You don’t need all of it all the time but there should be enough there that you have enough options to make it quick and easy. Very light kit, very quick setup/breakdown, strong enough, and very few moving parts.

        4 x Nite Ize Small Figure 9 Carabiner, with lines
        2 x Nite Ize #3 S-Biner
        1 x Nite Ize Cam Jam XT
        4-6 x Titanium Stakes – replace the orange cord with your favorite color of gutted paracord.
        1 x Hank of paracord, 30-50ft, just enough to reach to that last place that’s always 2 feet beyond your longest cord.

        Just passing along the knowledge. Not sure if you get to see this on Combat Patrol (HEAT 2) anymore?

      • #104458
        riflemaniv
        Participant

          How do you feel the paracord works over bungees attached to the corners? I have been using the 36” bungees that optactical sells. I removed one of the hooks and tied that end to the corners of my basha. Worked quite well at CP with a fast setup. I’m glad you shared this as I’m always look to streamline my gear an make it easier to use.

        • #104459
          BrigandActual
          Participant

            I use roughly the same kit for either my poncho or DD 10×10 tarp:

            – 1 x 50 foot hank paracord
            – 4 x 4 foot length paracord, pre-tied bowline knots on the ends
            – 2 x 8 foot length paracord, pre-tied bowline knots on the ends
            – 4 x MSR Groundhog stakes

            I tend to use the adjustable grip hitch for tightening things up on the stakes. For the ridgeline, I’ll use an Evenk knot on one end (or a bowline with a toggle set for quick release), and a trucker’s hitch on the other for tightness.

            An alternative to paracord that’s picked up popularity in the bushcraft crowd is #36 bank line from the Catahoula Manufacturing Company. It’s 350 lb test instead of 550, but it is significantly less bulky, lighter, ties knots better, and doesn’t stretch.

          • #104460
            Corvette
            Participant

              Learn to tie proper knots, and that way you will have no difficulty undoing your line, even if wet.

            • #104461
              Virgil Kane
              Participant

                Learn to tie proper knots, and that way you will have no difficulty undoing your line, even if wet.

                I was thinking similar. The simple Taut Line Hitch works great. It cuts down on weight and shit to keep up with. In my AO the stakes aren’t necessary, but I do have them packaged with my basha.

              • #104462
                trailman
                Participant

                  I’ve been tinkering a little bit with shelter setup and this is the hardware I carry to setup my basha. You don’t need all of it all the time but there should be enough there that you have enough options to make it quick and easy. Very light kit, very quick setup/breakdown, strong enough, and very few moving parts.

                  4 x Nite Ize Small Figure 9 Carabiner, with lines
                  2 x Nite Ize #3 S-Biner
                  1 x Nite Ize Cam Jam XT
                  4-6 x Titanium Stakes – replace the orange cord with your favorite color of gutted paracord.
                  1 x Hank of paracord, 30-50ft, just enough to reach to that last place that’s always 2 feet beyond your longest cord.

                  Just passing along the knowledge. Not sure if you get to see this on Combat Patrol (HEAT 2) anymore?

                  From boy scouts, these get used a lot, and they are versatile

                  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001HN6CX8

                  Learn knots, taut line and a bowline, only knots you’ll ever need, especially to tie a Christmas tree to the roof of your car. KISS tops cold, tired, dark and hungry.

                • #104463
                  tango
                  Participant

                    Knots are cool but invariably they take time, get tangled, use up cord length, and generally create more problems than they solve for me. A Figure 9 Carabiner can be wrapped and unwrapped is about as much time as it takes to read this sentence with no special skills.

                    I started out on this venture with bungee style stuff. Shock cord, S-biners, and more knots. Shock cord/bungee is heavier and bulkier than the light cord I have here. I never could get my basha as tight as I wanted because the other cords always stretched. Placing it as an overhang was a nightmare with 15 adjustments trying to get all the cords the same tension so it would end up in the right place. Elastic cords in windy times allowed too much flapping around. Bungees aren’t bad but they’re not great.

                    I don’t tie knots at the setup site. My lines are pre-set with a small double overhand loop on one end and that’s it. Either I clip to that loop or feed the bite back through it to create a loop around something else.

                    If this were just mucking about doing survivalist/bushcraft/boyscouts stuff then just carry a bunch of paracord and tie knots.

                  • #104464
                    trailman
                    Participant

                      Knots are cool but invariably they take time, get tangled, use up cord length, and generally create more problems than they solve for me. A Figure 9 Carabiner can be wrapped and unwrapped is about as much time as it takes to read this sentence with no special skills.

                      I started out on this venture with bungee style stuff. Shock cord, S-biners, and more knots. Shock cord/bungee is heavier and bulkier than the light cord I have here. I never could get my basha as tight as I wanted because the other cords always stretched. Placing it as an overhang was a nightmare with 15 adjustments trying to get all the cords the same tension so it would end up in the right place. Elastic cords in windy times allowed too much flapping around. Bungees aren’t bad but they’re not great.

                      I don’t tie knots at the setup site. My lines are pre-set with a small double overhand loop on one end and that’s it. Either I clip to that loop or feed the bite back through it to create a loop around something else.

                      If this were just mucking about doing survivalist/bushcraft/boyscouts stuff then just carry a bunch of paracord and tie knots.

                      Your right, much too important. Until you can’t find, dropped, lost your carbiner majik gadget thingy.

                    • #104465
                      hellokitty
                      Participant

                        I just have bungees attached to my tarp at 5 points (corners and on top if you have attachment. If no attachment in middle then I use 2 bungee middle edge opposite each other.) you should be able to string it up and tear down in seconds not minutes.

                        HEAT 1(CTT) X 3
                        HEAT 2 (CP) X1
                        FOF X3
                        OPFOR X2
                        CLC X2
                        RIFLEMAN

                      • #104466
                        Corvette
                        Participant

                          Technology is no substitute for fieldcraft.

                        • #104467
                          trailman
                          Participant

                            :good:

                            Technology is no substitute for fieldcraft.

                          • #130398
                            winter_is_coming
                            Participant

                              Any recommended youtubes or other videos re Basha set up – I would like to see some of the suggested systems in action. Thank you in advance for good/wise Basha set up video recommendations!

                            • #130456
                              Max
                              Keymaster

                                Best set-up for a basha is bungee cord tied to each corner, plus one on each end of the ridge. Carry some tent stakes. Depending on your location, you may need to carry some short poles, or cut sicks, if trees are at a premium.

                                Remember that a basha should be set up low to the ground and will be taken down before stand-to, unless exceptional circumstances. Like really heavy rain. It’s really about daytime visibility.

                                Knots and string is not cool.

                                Basha set up is actually really simple. Just stretch the ridge out between trees using the two bungee cords. Then peg down the 4 corner bungees. That gives you a low to the ground basha that will sleep two people.

                                If no, or one, tree. Use a tent pole / stick at the treeless ridge end, and peg the bungee down.

                              • #131559
                                winter_is_coming
                                Participant

                                  Max, thank you for your prompt reply. A couple of questions for you * and others * re the bungee system:
                                  1. Bungee diameter and length – same diameter for ridge as well as corners?
                                  2. How are bungees attached to tarp – knot or hardware?
                                  3. How are bungees rigged around trees – knot or hardware?
                                  4. How are bungees attached to tent stakes – knot or hardware?
                                  5. Method to tension bungee if “too loose”?
                                  6. Do you also use a bungee half ways along the long rectangular edge of tarp – half ways between corners?
                                  7. Height of long edge of tarp off ground – staked to ground or a couple of inches up from ground for visuals?
                                  Max, that would be great if you could do a video on your tarp set up.

                                  On a related topic, is anyone using dutchwaregear.com with lines for their tarp hardware?

                                  • #131668
                                    Max
                                    Keymaster

                                      Way complicated.

                                      1. Used to buy standard thin green bungees. How long? 2-3′?
                                      2. Tie bungees to eylets. Alternate just hook them on as needed.
                                      3. Bungees hooked back on themself. Adjust distance by hooking back to tarp, or hooking round tree, or couple times round tree as desired.
                                      4. Bungee has a hook on the end. Put stakes through hook.
                                      5. Wrap around tree.
                                      6. No
                                      7. Staked with bungees extended. Basha should be low to ground (see photo). If heavy rain and need to do admin underneath, can raise up so you can sit. Rain will obscure basha being seen anyway.

                                      No video.

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                                  • #131569
                                    hellokitty
                                    Participant

                                      See pic.

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                                      HEAT 1(CTT) X 3
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                                      FOF X3
                                      OPFOR X2
                                      CLC X2
                                      RIFLEMAN

                                      • #131665
                                        Max
                                        Keymaster

                                          Thanks Kitty. That is a photo of the MVT shield that I took. For promotional purposes.

                                      • #131575
                                        hellokitty
                                        Participant

                                          https://bushcraftuk.com/community/index.php?threads/hi-any-old-soldiers-about-shellscrape-question.152393/

                                          Here is a link to older Brit infantry fellow explaining a shell scrape. It might help you. Of course, Max is the expert and can explain it in detail.

                                          HEAT 1(CTT) X 3
                                          HEAT 2 (CP) X1
                                          FOF X3
                                          OPFOR X2
                                          CLC X2
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