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Follow Up on the Windproof Smock Concept

SAS windproof 2 front R

Above: An Original SAS Windproof Smock

I posted recently about the SAS windproof smock. I did comment that the concept has never really taken root in the US. A few things have happened since that have made me realize that, although many use a ‘parka’, the idea of a windproof smock has still not been fully transmitted.

Firstly, I see comments about the M65 field jacket, and various other items that people use or love. It’s not for me to tell your whether you like to use that item, or whether you like it or not. But I will tell you that none of these fulfill the concept of the SAS Windproof smock.

A lot of these are just outer jackets with no windproof capability, or otherwise ‘big freakin’ parkas’ or goretex waterproof jackets.

The windproof smock is something that is lightweight but windproof. It is an outer field jacket with these qualities. It can be worn in all temperate climates. You won’t want to wear it in the heat, where you will be better off in a jungle shirt/BDU style cotton shirt. The reason the SAS windproof is so good is because it is a lightweight but windproof ‘combat jacket’. The issued ‘combat jacket’ in the Brit Army is not windproof. Even a Para Smock, designed for jumping, is not windproof. These other jackets are fairly heavy material and when they get wet they are useless. A windproof is lightweight, will keep the wind out, and dry quickly.

I also just received my Artktis B210 windproof smock, which is an improved version of the original SAS issue version, of which mine is on its last legs. This is a very well made but fairly heavy jacket, with a liner.  This makes it more like a ‘parka’ style jacket that is more suited for wearing in the winter. It is not a fully temperate jacket. It will be great as an outer layer in winter cold.

On emailing a little back and forth with Arktis, I received the following comment:

Arktis: “The lining increases the wind resistance, that’s about it. We sell a B110 also, which is indeed the same smock but with no liner. We do not stock them in the US as most want the liner or waterproof.”

Me: “That’s because they don’t know the secret of the windproof smock, and they want a ‘parka’.”

Arktis: “Agreed.”

I want the B110!

Max Velocity

Live Hard.

Die Free.

MV

 

 

18 responses to “Follow Up on the Windproof Smock Concept”

    • I don’t recall if that is just a combat jacket or also a windproof. It says windproof, but it may be advertising. I’d need to look up some more info on it.

    • Officially they’re windproof and technically they’re windproof but they’re not very comfortable to wear. You should wear one in combination with the Norwegian shirt for comfort. The Arktis one looks more comfortable and light weight.

  3. Just as we are returning to classic light infantry tactics, so too are we re-visiting the classic wind-proof smock. And I am tracking 5-by on your windproof material comment. I recently picked up some taslan nylon and will shortly begin to experiment with it. It too is tightly woven, hence wind-proof, but also dries quickly as well. The point most folks seem to miss is that you don’t want any extra layers; it’s designed to be used as a light-weight shell over insulation layers. I have a ORC “MCU” L5 soft shell jacket that does this very well. But it’s gray. I want something green and/or brown.

  4. I just ordered one of these smocks. Supposedly issued, but in good shape. For $30, I’ll take a chance and see what all the hubbub is about. I’ll post again once I receive it toward the end of this week.

    Red

  5. I am also looking for something like that. The company Jones linked appears to be in UK though?

    The sportsmansguide item looks very very close to what Max is talking about though.

    I think i will order….

  6. Try keepshooting.com. Claims to be British milsurp but could be a knock-off. $30 plus shipping.

  7. I mean, to clarify, don’t get me wrong about the Arktis B210; I’m really liking it. It’s just more of a fall/winter jacket. I am interested in the B110 lighter version, but I already have an original issue version on the way from the UK. Feedback from anyone that purchases the B110 would be useful, as a future resource. Of course, if arktis want to send me one, I’ll test, compare and review it….

  10. Max, what do you recommend for use in the rain?
    Smock in conjunction with another garment, or a separate rain gear or poncho??