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    • #148077
      vagabond
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        A very brief post here.

        Background: Aging geezer perspective who has attended 2 Texas classes.

        But the point is this: I in NO WAY believe that ‘they’ are smarter, or more clever than
        ‘we’ are. But there is one major difference, and that is this: “They” are – and have been – operational for sometime whereas ‘we’ are not.

        Meaning “They” already have an art and craft of protesting/agitation and working the media. “We” are still debating whether there is an actual threat and what to do about it, or at best ‘ how serious is the threat.”

        Interpretation: ‘they” are simply waaay ahead of ‘us’ in the OODA loop.

        Read: ‘crimethinc.com to see where ‘they’ are vs. American Thinker, for example.

      • #148079
        Lloyd
        Participant

          All true. Collectivists do collectivist stuff, like ORGANIZING.

          We who just want to be left alone… are alone.

          I don’t know what the solution is. My best guess is that there IS no solution. My HOPE is that the limited “organizing” we have seen with the anti-lockdown and anti-disarmament protests in the recent past, and the massive Trump rallies we have seen for the past few years, are glimpses of what will happen when “enough is enough”.

          I know all of that is wishful thinking, but America does have a history of people pulling together and doing what needs to be done, when it needs to be done. I have lived through this myself in a couple of relatively minor disasters, so I KNOW there’s a difference in how Good people come together to solve community problems… vs Katrina for example, where the supposedly “organized” leftist demographic melted down into chaos. Another example is how the current “protests” against an obvious murder-by-cop have turned into a free-for-all looting spree.

          I think the difference between “us” and “them” is that when (if) “enough is enough” and we finally do decide to get organized, we will become downright scary.

          MVT Texas 2015-2020
          Team Cowbell / Team Coyote / Team Rekkr

        • #148080
          Lloyd
          Participant

            Related:

            MVT Texas 2015-2020
            Team Cowbell / Team Coyote / Team Rekkr

          • #148081
            Joe (G.W.N.S.)
            Moderator

              Meaning “They” already have an art and craft of protesting/agitation and working the media.

              There is a major difference between “They” and “Us,” in its most simplistic form.

              “They” want to overthrow and replace our faltering Government.

              “We” for the most part would be happy with some relatively small movement towards Rightful Liberty, sure more would be better, but we have demonstrated we will put up with a lot of BS and not do more than complain.

              They have the Media as a coconspiritor, not to mention other big buck entities.

              I doubt this issue can be solved without an actual physical fight.

              So with that in mind…

              When things finally go far enough to provoke us to fight, what you do in your neck of the woods will have little bearing on what needs to be done in my area.

              Sure if enough of us are successful, eventually we will need larger communication.

              YMMV ;-)

            • #148095
              chant8tones
              Participant

                American Thinker doesn’t represent me or many others who might self-identify as “conservative.” They’re part of the hustle economy, and have to stay respectable to stay in business.

              • #148182
                Ronin42
                Participant

                  Sure if enough of us are successful, eventually we will need larger communication.
                  ;-)

                  im looking to find locals to chat with and organize.
                  train, and practice.

                  as for the video, i like the way it was put, clean and concise.
                  its cruel, especially from the useful idiot cos-players.
                  they don’t even realize they are against all they claim to represent.

                  my question is what can we do?
                  maybe a way to turn the narrative?
                  if so how?

                  i don’t like to sit on my hands while this goes on…

                  mvt alumni CTT & DCH
                  some other schools..

                  part time tactical couch potato

                • #148194
                  Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                  Moderator

                    im looking to find locals to chat with and organize.
                    train, and practice.

                    Local is the key, but not just a group.

                    It’s how you and your sphere of influence make your community better. For this to happen you have to actually be involved with your community.

                    my question is what can we do?
                    maybe a way to turn the narrative?
                    if so how?

                    Far too many want to effect the Nations narrative.

                    This is like the goofy Libertarians putting effort into a Presidential candidate, it’s just not going to happen.

                    Start smaller, change the narrative among your friends, then neighbors, then community.

                    Again with my Libertarian example, if they would work to gain a Town, then another, then a County, working their way up is realistic.

                    Top down solutions don’t work.

                    i don’t like to sit on my hands while this goes on…

                    Focus on smaller realistic goals, without a local foundation you can’t just solve the Nation problems.

                    Consider the location as well, a small group isn’t going to have much affect on a Socialist Stronghold until it’s surrounded by smaller groups with common beliefs.

                  • #148266
                    Ronin42
                    Participant

                      fair enough, i’m to used to doing on my own. not my favorite thing, and it tends to be alienating.
                      i like to think i’m having some effect with locals, but i’m unsure if any.
                      have a few people who are willing to think in secure means, and my gf practically ignores the danger.. a test in patience i guess

                      mvt alumni CTT & DCH
                      some other schools..

                      part time tactical couch potato

                    • #148268
                      Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                      Moderator

                        …a test in patience i guess

                        If it was easy we would all be sitting pretty! ;-)

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