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    • #120041
      Max
      Keymaster

        This will be officially appended to the Recce Class Page. First pass at the list:

        Capability of carrying at least 14 magazines.

        Camouflage Uniform-Pants and Shirt (Recommend no combat shirts. You will find out that those suck for this class.)

        Wet Weather Gear(NO PONCHOS).

        Appropriate cold weather gear for the time of year. Class takes place the latter part of November, dress accordingly.

        Binoculars

        Spotting Scope(Optional)

        Medium size assault pack

        Ability to carry water(Camel Back bladder, nalgene bottles etc.)

        Protective gear for Airsim(Eye Pro, mask or balaclava to protect face)

        Gloves

        Boonie Cap

        Folding Saw

        Small Pruning Shears

        Lensatic Compass

        Wrist Compass(Optional)

        GPS(Optional): Need to have the capability to identify grid coordinates

        E-tool

        550 Cord

        100 MPH Tape or electrical tape(NO BRIGHT COLORS)

        No body armor or plate carriers

        No helmets

        No complete ghillie suits. At most some type of scrim or head net only to be worn during reconnaissance, not during movement.

        Notebook and pen for missions(The best is the Rite in the Rain notebooks)

        Note taking material for lecture portion of the class

        Two meals will be eaten while on patrol. It needs to be some type of MRE or Mountain House.

        Lunch, snacks, water and drinks like a normal class.

      • #120054
        Max
        Keymaster

          Smoke grenades are also encouraged.

        • #120056
          veritas556
          Participant

            Any application for NV or FLIR for this class?

          • #120066
            BrigandActual
            Participant

              Interesting to note the lensatic compass. You used to advocate for the baseplate style like a Silva or Suunto MC2. Small detail, just something interesting.

            • #120074
              First Sergeant
              Moderator

                Any application for NV or FLIR for this class?

                Not for this class. This is the inaugural class so I will see how it goes and decide at a later time about adding night stuff.

                Interesting to note the lensatic compass. You used to advocate for the baseplate style like a Silva or Suunto MC2. Small detail, just something interesting.

                This is the class list that I made. Either type of compass will work. I am more of a fan of lensatic style for this type of stuff. Old habits die hard.

                FILO
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                • #120283
                  BrigandActual
                  Participant

                    Ah, cool. That makes sense. Sounds like this will be a great class.

                • #120268
                  Rich
                  Participant

                    all–

                    i’m really looking forward to this class, so i hope the requisite number of paying attendees was met. anyway, for others coming out, i’ll bring some extra scrim to cut for your boonies, an extra folding saw, and a couple extra write-in-the-piss notepads. i know they aren’t the expensive sexy things that keep people from signing up, but they’re the things we tend to forget while loading up mags and smoke grenades.

                    small piece of advice i learned at last spring’s CBQC: invest in a good full-face paintball mask for Airsim. see you all there.

                  • #120544
                    First Sergeant
                    Moderator

                      If you have questions about the gear list, this is the place to ask me.

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                    • #120584
                      Hessian
                      Participant

                        When you say 14 magazines. Is that 6 on your person plus 1 in the gun and the other 7 in say your pack? Or do you want all 14 in easily accessible in pouches on your LBE?

                        • #120740
                          First Sergeant
                          Moderator

                            As many of the 14 that you can carry on you, preferably all. Not in your pack.

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                        • #120621
                          Max
                          Keymaster

                            Still at 5 for the Nov class. Need 6 to run it. 8 maximum. If you are coming, book it.

                          • #121093
                            farmer
                            Participant

                              Rough size for a ” medium size assault pack “. Fight Lite pack is approx 15 liters. So, 25 Liters for Medium?

                            • #121140
                              BILLY
                              Participant

                                Farmer, are you coming to recce class?

                                • #121146
                                  Max
                                  Keymaster

                                    Not signed up at this time.

                                  • #121154
                                    farmer
                                    Participant

                                      I can’t make this one. I’m going to aim for the spring 2020 class.

                                  • #121700
                                    First Sergeant
                                    Moderator

                                      Some may be wondering about the whole carrying 14 magazines thing.

                                      I am not saying that you have to go out and get completely new kit or redo yours to where you look like the gear bomb exploded on you. You need to be able to carry as many on you as possible with the gear you have.

                                      I will cover why in the class and also why there is different kit for different missions.

                                      FILO
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                                    • #124741
                                      Pinky
                                      Participant

                                        mags – we are using airsim, so empty or loaded?

                                        pack – same question as above, big enough to carry the items in the list is sufficient? I have one of those Karrimor Predator 30’s, which I assume is 30L? sufficient?

                                        day only? day+night? cabin for sleeping or are we out all night?

                                        Thanks, looking forward to it.

                                        • #124854
                                          First Sergeant
                                          Moderator

                                            Using Airsim.

                                            That pack should be good.

                                            Out during the day Saturday and Sunday.

                                            Cabin for sleeping and class on Friday.

                                            FILO
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                                        • #127864
                                          Pinky
                                          Participant

                                            I am leaving from west of Richmond (Powhatan) Thursday afternoon sometime (about a 4 hour drive to MVT). If anyone wants to carpool or a ride, let me know.

                                          • #128152
                                            Pinky
                                            Participant

                                              starting to pack…

                                              mags – empty or full? would prefer to empty them here if empty.

                                              thanks!

                                              • #128155
                                                Max
                                                Keymaster

                                                  It’s an airsim class. Mags will be issued.

                                                  For those needing more info Scott is up here at the

                                                • #128484
                                                  First Sergeant
                                                  Moderator

                                                    You don’t need to bring mags.

                                                    The class is Airsim.

                                                    FILO
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                                                • #128539
                                                  ariel
                                                  Participant

                                                    Any required/recommended gear or clothing type for the OPFOR besides the usual eye/face protection for airsim and dressing for the weather?

                                                    Thanks!

                                                    Ariel

                                                    • #128826
                                                      First Sergeant
                                                      Moderator

                                                        What you wore at CLC is fine.

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