Pistol lanyards?

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    • #108770
      Trajan
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        I’m trying to gear up, and I was wondering what those of you with military experience think about using pistol lanyards. Are they necessary/useful for infantry work?

      • #108771
        Corvette
        Participant

          My pistol lanyard got tangled up or caught on everything. Just my experience your milage may very.

        • #108772
          DuaneH
          Participant

            Nope. They suck in the woods.

            Limited utility in a SWAT/MOUT situation.

          • #108773
            USMC-03
            Participant

              For a butter bar LT lanyards are mandatory! All others use or not at your discretion…

            • #108774
              DuaneH
              Participant

                I was never a butter bar :yahoo:

              • #108775
                Trajan
                Participant

                  OK. I thought I had read somewhere that the military were using them now, but it seemed like something that could catch on things easily. But I did wonder if maybe it would be out of the way enough if it were attached at the back of one’s rig somewhere.

                  So I take it pistol retention isn’t usually much of an issue in the heat of battle and/or drills?

                • #108776
                  Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                  Moderator

                    You would be shocked at the number of people that have lost pistols in the field, not just butter bar LT’s either!

                    I use a GEMTECH Tactical Retention Lanyard it is the only lanyard that I know has been engineered to have a programmed breaking strength of approximately 100 pounds to prevent injury in the event of entanglement.

                    For me you have either the choice of a holster/pouch that retains so well it’s difficult to get to or one that is easy, but risks loss of gear.

                    The reason I say gear is I’ve used these for more than just pistols. For me certain items are going to be tied to me to prevent loss.

                    Like many things, there are many different opinions.

                  • #108777
                    Chris
                    Moderator

                      first sign a soldier is a pogue….lanyard on his pistol

                    • #108778
                      Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                      Moderator

                        Gee thanks :wacko:

                      • #108779
                        Corvette
                        Participant

                          I use one sometimes in the snow, thick skany bush, or climbing. Mostly because I’m wearing out holsters faster then I can replace them. Generally its just 550 wrapped around the bottom of the handle fastened some how so not to get it the way or tangled. You really cant even tell its there. When pulling the pistol it simply unravels out the bottom of my hand, np.

                        • #108780
                          Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                          Moderator

                            I think a lot has to do with the environments we have dealt with,I have a lot of time doing waterborne ops. It’s a very unforgiven to items lost.

                            Or maybe I am just a pogue? :whistle:

                          • #108781
                            Corvette
                            Participant

                              Ill be a pogue or a krapp bag or what ever, I dont care. All that is horse shit to me… :mail: …Like the old saying goes “even if you weigh 400lbs and are walking around the block you’re still doing more then the guy on the sofa”…

                            • #108782
                              Corvette
                              Participant

                                I use a Backhawk! Serpa holster, which retains my SIG very well. I don’t use a lanyard because I don’t want it to catch on brush when hiking. I would consider a lanyard if I was expecting to fall of a mountain or something where I could lose the pistol.
                                Of course, the solution to that is… don’t fall off the mountain.
                                But seriously, I think I’d only use it if I was doing work on a boat. Got to avoid those tragic boating accidents where you lose all your guns…. :unsure:

                              • #108783
                                WastedSkin
                                Participant

                                  Lanyards were required if you carried a sidearm on my OIF deployment. Around base I wore a belt holster and it never got in the way. Outside the wire I switched to a drop holster and I found the lanyard getting snagged much more often.

                                  After trying a few different mounting options for the lanyard when wearing my drop holster I settled on attaching the lanyard to the vertical strap that lowered the holster off my beltline and tucking the excess loosely between my leg and the holster. I spent a fair amount of time practicing my drawstroke to make sure it wouldn’t snag on the way out and I never had an issue with it doing so.

                                  Would I wear one now that I don’t have to? Maybe, but I don’t currently own one. If you can figure out a way to use it without it catching on everything you walk by they are certainly cheaper than replacing a lost weapon.

                                • #108784
                                  Max
                                  Keymaster

                                    This is not Max’s response/content. Just a glitch from the transition to subscription.

                                    On the deployment where I actually had a pistol issued (typically in a rifle platoon, only the M240 gunners have pistols and I was a platoon sergeant) we were required to use lanyards. That said, as soon as we left the wire I removed mine because it tended to get hung up on stuff especially when dismounting from my vehicle. Not saying it’s not useful, and I dummy cord anything important to my gear, but the benefits in this case did not seem to outweigh the risks. I then replaced it when we RTB’d IOT keep the 1SG off my case. Us low speed conventional force types tend to be treated like children and we just do what we’re told (except when we don’t.)

                                  • #108785
                                    Max
                                    Keymaster

                                      This is not Max’s response/content. Just a glitch from the transition to subscription.

                                      first sign a soldier is a pogue….lanyard on his pistol

                                      I was never a pogue, but as a FAG (Former Action Guy) I still wear one. Nothing like seeing a pistol dangling under a helicopter to make you appreciate them.

                                      Get one of the springy coiled ones and stuff the excess under your belt. It’ll come out when you need it.

                                    • #108786
                                      Trajan
                                      Participant

                                        Well I really appreciate all the feedback. It looks like there’s a wide variety of experiences and opinions. I think I’ll try one out when I begin training to see how it works for me. Thanks, gentlemen.

                                      • #108787
                                        RRS
                                        Participant

                                          Peace time service in the MC we were all pogues. But my Cpt had a spiffy shoulder holster he let us weapons custodians wear when on duty, now that’s the way to carry a .45 and it pissed off the lifers to boot.

                                        • #108788
                                          RRS
                                          Participant

                                            The guy who runs “weapons man” blog ripped on the Serpa holsters as being unsafe FYI

                                          • #108789
                                            Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                            Moderator

                                              I thought it would be a good time to bring this back up after First Sergeant’s Thread Helmet Counter Weight and NOD’s Tiedown.

                                              I am a big believer in anything you can’t afford to lose needs a redundant attachment to you.

                                              Your gear, your choice.

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