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    • #145654
      Max
      Keymaster

        Watch this. Really, just watch it:

      • #145656
        AntMan
        Participant

          Great find. Thanks!

          2xcqbc
          1xclc

        • #145657
          DiznNC
          Participant

            Wow. There is something to that. Whatever your belief system or religion may be, I think there is good, and evil. However you want to define those terms. And I believe it should exist in a balance of some kind. The problem, as I see it, is that there is a huge imbalance towards evil these days.

            I think this is on each and everyone of us. You make thousands of decisions on a daily basis to which way you lean.

            I think there is an elite in this world that are given over to this dark side. We have been flooded with propaganda that supports their agenda. I have seen this over the last 60+ years. And so has nearly every person on the planet. I think this heavily influences a lot of people’s behavior these days.

            I even think that historically speaking, we have seen this in a cycle since the beginning of time. Times of darkness, and times of enlightenment. I think it’s obvious which time we are in.

            Spiritually speaking, there has always been this battle between good, and evil. I am not a religious person, per se, but I do consider myself a spiritual person; I believe we are more than just meat sandwiches; there is another side of ourselves, difficult to define, but nonetheless there. We connect with that, for both good, and evil.

            How this all plays into or inter-links with all the things we see going on today; our government; our society and culture; our struggle to reclaim our freedom; that’s the question in my mind. It may seem rather simplistic, but Occam’s Razor comes to mind.

          • #145659
            AntMan
            Participant

              Additionally, isn’t there a movie about the CIA doing this to get Canadians out of Iran if I recall correctly? The CIA went into Iran using the cover of movie producers and got them attached to an actual movie studio who would create the movie to back their cover.

              2xcqbc
              1xclc

            • #145662
              Lloyd
              Participant

                There is a LOT of evidence out there, going back at least 20 years, that the whole satanic/pedo thing is very real… and that it is tied to the “elites” in a big way. Whether or not we “believe in” that stuff or not, THEY do.

                If you think about it in terms of history, there is no difference in human nature between now and 1,000+ years ago. Technology is different, but power-hungry psychos willing to “sell their soul to the devil” have risen to the top in every government in the history of humanity.

                And those power-hungry psychos have always used fear, terrorism, religion, “the myth of authority” to control the masses. Nothing different today. In 1960 it was commies, in 2001 it was muslim terrorists, today it’s covid-19.

                What’s next?

                Fourth Turning tells me that we’re most likely going to end up in a shooting war with China, but I can theorize several different chains of events as a result of this virus panic… none of them are good.

                MVT Texas 2015-2020
                Team Cowbell / Team Coyote / Team Rekkr

              • #145663
                Lloyd
                Participant

                  Connecting everything in the video Max posted to our current situation, I will add that “mandatory vaccination” is an absolute line in the sand. Remember that it’s the same Evil system described in the video that would be “requiring” such a vaccine.

                  From a libertarian philosophy standpoint: it’s a violation of my body, and that will NOT be tolerated.

                  From the standpoint of my own research on vaccines: I don’t trust ANY vaccine, especially not an unproven experimental one, advocated by a bunch of eugenics/depopulation advocates.

                  From a religious standpoint: it’s the mark of the beast, containing aborted fetus cells (which will make the pedo/satanists happy)… and there has been talk from the likes of Fauci, Bill Gates, etc, that you won’t be able to travel freely or participate in the economy without “proof of immunity”. Read Revelations again.

                  MVT Texas 2015-2020
                  Team Cowbell / Team Coyote / Team Rekkr

                • #145674
                  BILLY
                  Participant

                    really eye opening, a bit of a time investment at 75 minutes but honestly…. what else do we have to do right now! but in the end it’s another video that pisses me off because so few of us see what is being done to us for the benefit of the elite puppetmasters. you look at how world governments are going to push TRILLIONS of dollars into the business world, all of which is debt that we will pass to our grand children, and they are doing this because banks, commercial real estate, and the super rich dont want to own the risk they have taken on to make their millions. and oh yeah on top of that it’s now clear that they rape children and worship the devil in the meantime, just pisses me off

                  • #145690
                    Anonymous
                    Inactive

                      A bit conspiracyish but I did watch most of it.

                      “Cultural hegemony is the domination of a culturally diverse society by the ruling class who manipulate the culture of that society — the beliefs and explanations, perceptions, values, and mores — so that the imposed, ruling-class worldview becomes the accepted cultural norm; the universally valid dominant ideology, which justifies the social, political, and economic status quo as natural and inevitable, perpetual and beneficial for every social class, rather than as artificial social constructs that benefit only the ruling class.”

                      “Hegemonic culture propagates its own values and norms so that they become the ‘common sense; values of all and thus maintain the status quo. Hegemonic power is therefore used to maintain consent to the…order, rather than coercive power using force to maintain order. This cultural hegemony is produced and reproduced by the dominant class through the institutions that form the superstructure.”

                      • #145694
                        Max
                        Keymaster

                          Hush.

                      • #145704
                        Lloyd
                        Participant

                          Hush.

                          LOL…

                          Was that for me, or for our resident neo-commie?

                          MVT Texas 2015-2020
                          Team Cowbell / Team Coyote / Team Rekkr

                          • #145705
                            Max
                            Keymaster

                              Him.

                          • #145721
                            Anonymous
                            Inactive

                              As an addendum here’s a piece on the occult and rocketry, the West Coast counter-culture’s interest in novel religious movements goes back pretty much to California’s rise as a urbanized, liberalized enclave, waaaay before MK ULTRA or anything.

                              https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/vvbxgm/the-last-of-the-magicians

                              Hush.

                              I just listened to a hour and 17 minute video about how a group of elites is using their hegemony to establish cultural control over the population, to our detriment. Didn’t need to but figured why not so Max couldn’t say I should have watched it before commenting. I “sanitized” the Gramsci reference so perhaps someone could see the value of a sociological concept that’s already been fleshed out before us without immediately getting triggered with “COMMIE!” but still triggering regardless it seems.

                              Whether or not a left-winger or a right-winger took notice of a tactic or strategy first doesn’t invalidate the concept. I’m not crazy about Rhodesia’s politics unlike some of y’all but the RLI and Selous Scout’s tactics are still solid and worth learning from. Also not at all a fan of Gramsci’s Marxism but his theory on cultural hegemony seem valid here too, no need to reinvent the wheel but apparently some “authoritative” right-winger on Youtube or whatever needs to verbalize it before it’s accepted as canon here. If you’re only sticking to or rejecting specific concepts because they came from right- or left-wingers you’re wasting precious time but suit yourself.

                              If Max wants to shush me every time I try to offer a different opinion to the forum then I’ll just quit contributing to the forum, I’ll keep my account up in case anyone wants to contact me for whatever reason but no need to offer input where it’s not wanted.

                            • #145729
                              Lloyd
                              Participant

                                @ rampantraptor, I was being facetious with my “neo-commie” comment… I do think you lean a bit too far left and are full of shit about half the time (facetious again), but I admit I DO usually enjoy your input, since it gives a window on a point of view that I would never get anywhere else.

                                Usually I don’t agree with your conclusions, but unlike most people I’d consider left-leaning, you HAVE thought them out, so I’d hate to see you go.

                                MVT Texas 2015-2020
                                Team Cowbell / Team Coyote / Team Rekkr

                              • #145741
                                Anonymous
                                Inactive

                                  @Lloyd
                                  Thanks, sometimes friendly teasing doesn’t translate well over the Internet.

                                  I acknowledge I’m the “left-wing” of this forum (which is ironic because I’m still the hardcore libertarian and free market guy compared to the circles of actual leftists I interact with), though I’m interested in social anarchist stuff only as far as it advances individual liberty, not the other way around. (Coincidentally Bakunin, Goldman, Tucker, Bookchin, etc. all had pretty savage takedowns of Marxism.)

                                  Just shutting down the conversation rather than saying “This is why this is wrong” is frustrating.

                                  As far as Gramsci goes I know I’ve seen articles posted on this forum (I believe regarding the Virginia elections) explicitly stating that this same theory has been co-opted by the Maoists and whatnot in progressive circles and repurposed towards their own ends against the right.

                                • #145745
                                  Lloyd
                                  Participant

                                    @Lloyd
                                    Thanks, sometimes friendly teasing doesn’t translate well over the Internet.

                                    :good:

                                    MVT Texas 2015-2020
                                    Team Cowbell / Team Coyote / Team Rekkr

                                  • #145927
                                    JustARandomGuy
                                    Participant

                                      Finally got a chance to watch this.
                                      I mean… I’ll give them an A for effort. But really nothing new here.
                                      You know why all these “expose” documentaries end on such a “white pill” note?
                                      Because there’s nothing you can do.
                                      Or at least, will do.
                                      Controlled opposition to make people feel aware and knowledgeable with their tiny shred of what they think they know while the real show goes on all around them.

                                    • #145928
                                      JustARandomGuy
                                      Participant

                                      • #145930
                                        DiznNC
                                        Participant

                                          Big boy rules. I’m sure you’re tough enough to withstand some criticism. I for one enjoy your counter-point to some things said on here. Like Lloyd said, at least you give it some fucking thought and can verbalize why you think these things, unlike the vast majority of lefties.

                                          Me thinks that some times there’s a kernel of truth in arguments from both sides; it’s just the pols twist these things for their own interests. For example, in theory, I believe in some aspects of “communism”, in as far as it goes to pool resources and help each other out, especially in times of crisis. But the concept is taken to ridiculous extremes by pols for their own grab for power.

                                          What that knucklehead you quoted said made a lot of sense, in theory, but their conclusions drawn from these “facts” are flawed, IMHO. Sometimes a “dominate culture” may actually be good; instead the default setting for many is that it is evil. I would say in the early days of this country, the “dominate hegemony” was actually pretty good. These days, it is definitely fucked up, but that’s just the way these things go. It was not inherently good or bad, merely because it was the dominate theory; it was good because the peeps made it so; and the opposite also holds true. I think this kind of ideology is the ultimate expression of the “have-nots” against the the “haves”. Done in a vacuum, as if you have no say in the matter; you’re just a piece of floating jetsam on the tide of history, right?

                                          I say fuck all that. Make your own destiny. Even in these times. Pissing and moaning about all this crap is useless. Ignore it, go do something useful. I just finished up Lloyd’s DG-MAX mod.

                                        • #145933
                                          Lloyd
                                          Participant

                                            …I just finished up Lloyd’s DG-MAX mod.

                                            and that, my friend, was the absolute BEST part!!!

                                            :yahoo:

                                            MVT Texas 2015-2020
                                            Team Cowbell / Team Coyote / Team Rekkr

                                          • #145968
                                            DiznNC
                                            Participant

                                              Yeah you know after shooting myself in the foot by trying to refurb my machines in the middle of parts shortages, I’m actually enjoying staying inside and working on projects. The DG-MAX has been fun working on, along with a few other things.

                                            • #146042
                                              Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                              Moderator

                                                There’s a lot to be said for blissful ignorance!

                                                Don’t pretend to want truth only hide when it’s presented.

                                                Despite videos cursory overview, there is more truth than errors.

                                                As noted; beyond anger, how does it benefit you?

                                                Critical thinking; among others, was mentioned frequently.

                                                Imagine that! ;-)

                                                In reality it goes beyond difficulty handling the truth, personal bias, programming, and groupthink prevents most from accepting truth despite evidence.

                                                Until this obstacle is overcome most will continue to fall repeatedly for more lies!

                                              • #146051
                                                DiznNC
                                                Participant

                                                  For me, it’s not so much about believing it, as just accepting it. I was taught that people are basically good and with the, uh proper motivation, will “do the right thing”. What was frustrating for me, was accepting that this rosey outlook on human nature was skewed, to say the least. If you figure out that we have the capacity for both good and evil, and the choice to do either, then it begins to make a little more sense, as far as how we can be so good, yet so fucked up at the same time. Or how the “preponderance” of good vs evil can shift throughout the ages.

                                                  Me thinks we have a coming “dark age” upon our hands. The names and causes may change but the sequence of events remains fairly constant. In this century alone we have witnessed National Socialism, Communism, “radical” Islam, not to mention the “Wars on _” and a few flu bugs (notice how there’s always a boogey man?). Our star is in decline, and another will rise.

                                                  To the OP, peeps are always looking to put a face on these things. The Tri-Lats, the Bilder-boogers, the Council on Foreign relations (does that include my in-laws?), the Bonesman, and yes, these devil-worshipping kiddie fiddlers. It’s not that they aren’t there, it’s the shock some people have at realizing it really does exist.

                                                  There are many things that are done in the shadows; if you can accept the fact that it’s a part of our very nature, then you can maybe channel your energies into something useful, rather than being paralyzed by the shock and fear of it.

                                                  I think the time rapidly approaches where we will make our “Stand”. Get ready.

                                                • #146053
                                                  Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                  Moderator

                                                    For me, it’s not so much about believing it, as just accepting it.

                                                    …groupthink prevents most from accepting truth despite evidence.

                                                    I am a Analyst, not a Therapist! ;-)

                                                  • #146336
                                                    mdbjjc
                                                    Participant

                                                      https://www.bitchute.com/video/KMBcAvYH1f3L/

                                                      If you liked Out of The Shadows

                                                      This is even crazier…not sure about the last part, but Pizzagate? Just watch and be the judge

                                                    • #147342
                                                      Anonymous
                                                      Inactive

                                                        Me thinks that some times there’s a kernel of truth in arguments from both sides; it’s just the pols twist these things for their own interests. For example, in theory, I believe in some aspects of “communism”, in as far as it goes to pool resources and help each other out, especially in times of crisis. But the concept is taken to ridiculous extremes by pols for their own grab for power.

                                                        Diz’s response was buried in a sea of tabs in my Chrome session lol.

                                                        This has basically been my take the whole time, rather than pursuing collectivism or individualism as complete opposites and striving for one extreme or another embracing the yin and the yang of it. Any kind of communalism should only go so far as it respects and actively preserves individual liberty, and one’s individual liberties shouldn’t come at the cost of the liberty of other members of the community (i.e., the NAP).

                                                        Both actually-existing socialism and actually-existing capitalism have represented extremes of both philosophies. Individualist states have failed to prevent violence from empowered collectives, and collectivist states have failed to prevent violence from empowered individuals.

                                                        My interest in the social anarchist theory is that it has actually been tried, whereas there’s never been a truly right-libertarian statelet in history, so there are valuable lessons learned in terms of understanding how a society can be organized without the ever-present Leviathan there to snatch your liberties away.

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