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        Joe (G.W.N.S.)

          This is the excerpt from 2020 Session Budget Bill – HB30 (Introduced):

          Q. Included in the appropriation for this Item is $250,000 the first year from the general fund for the estimated net increase in the operating cost of adult correctional facilities resulting from the enactment of sentencing legislation as listed below. This amount shall be paid into the Corrections Special Reserve Fund, established pursuant to § 30-19.1:4, Code of Virginia.

          1. Allow the removal of firearms from persons who pose substantial risk to themselves or others — $50,000

          2. Prohibit the sale, possession, and transport of assault firearms, trigger activators, and silencers — $50,000

          3. Increase the penalty for allowing a child to access unsecured firearms — $50,000

          4. Prohibit possession of firearms for persons subject to final orders of protection — $50,000

          5. Require background checks for all firearms sales — $50,000.

          This reflects in part…

          § 30-19.1:4. Increase in terms of imprisonment or commitment; fiscal impact statements; appropriations for operating costs.

          A. The Virginia Criminal Sentencing Commission shall prepare a fiscal impact statement reflecting the operating costs attributable to and necessary appropriations for any bill which would result in a net increase in periods of imprisonment in state adult correctional facilities.

          Ok, first the truly amazing thing is I can only hope that as an “introduced” these dollar numbers are just fillers! :wacko:

          Sorry for geeking out there, but $250,000 doesn’t pay for crap! Average cost of incarceration at the State level in Viginia is $20,000 per inmate a year.

          So again it’s a filler number or its easy to see how we got to $23 Trillion in debt with such math geniuses! ;-)

          A interesting sidenote Virginia only has the capacity for about 40,000 inmates. Current population as of four days ago was 37,813. This leaves them with a serious logistical problem if they truly wanted to go after “evil” gun owners!

        • #133575

            I was thinking some of the same things. I can’t imagine $250k would be anywhere near enough to incarcerate the number of those choosing to defend their liberties.

          • #133577
            Joe (G.W.N.S.)

              That’s their problem with creating “criminals,” they have to rely mostly on compliance since the logistics don’t add up!

              A cursory check shows Virginia has according to the US Bureau of Justice Statistics’ 2008 Census of State and Local Law Enforcement Agencies, the state had 340 law enforcement agencies employing 22,848 sworn police officers, about 293 for each 100,000 residents.

              Even if we add the Virginia National Guard which is composed of approximately 7,500 soldiers and maintains 46 armories in communities throughout the Commonwealth.

              They just don’t have the resources to force compliance among a large number of their population!

              Note: See the thread Interesting Threats and Numbers (Updated 29OCT16) for the national breakdown!

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              Joe (G.W.N.S.)

                Virginia’s current population as of 2019 is 8,571,946.

                Given that population, if just .5% of the population would resist that is 42,859 Virginians!

                Even given such a low percentage of Virginians, they would still have a advantage of 12,511 people.

                Numbers do not favor the State and of course that doesn’t even address how many LEO’s and Guardsmen wouldn’t participate in such action.

                If it becomes a fight, the State of Virginia can’t win!

                I have serious doubts President Trump would back Northam, so Virginia has no one to get back up from.

                Good news overall!

              • #133592

                  It would be interesting to see how many Gaurdsmen Sheriff Jenkins would deputize. As Guardsmen with access to armories being sworn deputies carrying out their duties I could see quite a debacle for Northam. I know there are significant differences, but the Battle of Athens Tennessee does come to mind….

                • #133615

                    This leaves them with a serious logistical problem if they truly wanted to go after “evil” gun owners!

                    I don’t think that ever stopped tyrannical actions. Internment camps are the easy answer. We only need look to our own history, let alone that of other nations: Andersonville of the civil war, the Japanese camps of WWII. Also, I’m sure other liberal controlled states would take prisoners, especially in states where prisons are private sector (more business for them!)

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                    Joe (G.W.N.S.)

                      Internment camps are the easy answer.

                      Sure if your talking the Federal Government against a mostly compliant group particularly within a limited geographical area.

                      22,848 sworn police officer

                      Not with their limited resources! :wacko:

                      …against a noncompliant group?

                      Not happening! B-)

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                      Joe (G.W.N.S.)

                        I hadn’t run the numbers until last night.

                        This is a fools errand by Northam and his ilk!

                        If just few Virginians choose to resist with only a few thousand people the Socialists will lose.

                        Remember my conservative estimate of only .5% of Virginians is truly a disaster for Northam and those numbers could easily be on the low side of active particapants.

                      • #133632
                        Joe (G.W.N.S.)

                          There’s a conservative estimate of 2,485,864 Virginian gun owners.

                          If only 1% of those gun owners was willing to resist you are still looking at 24,485 active participants.

                          Hell even if we go with my .5% that’s still 12,243 people.

                          Remember that in Northern Ireland the UK only faced around 200 active armed participants.

                          Look at the shit that caused!

                          If it comes to a fight I am feeling pretty good about Virginians chance of success! :yes:

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