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    • #134911
      D Close
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        Qasem Suleimani reported assassinated.

        https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/rocket-attack-shuts-down-baghdad-airport-after-joint-us-iraqi-base-targeted

        If true, expect return fire. Iranian Supreme Military Commander. Lots of countries wanted him dead.

        edit: already dead in wikipedia

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qasem_Soleimani

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      • #134915
        First Sergeant
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          https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2020/01/02/iraqi-tv-iranian-general-qassim-suleimani-killed-in-baghdad-strike/

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        • #134923
          rampantraptor
          Participant

            I’m waiting on Iranian confirmation but right now it seems it might be legit.

            Also been hearing about a lot of US air activity around Kirkuk, not sure if related to Hashd al-Shaabi or the ISIS cells at the KRG-Iraq borderlands.

            For some perspective to those who don’t follow this stuff, this would be equivalent to the Iranians killing the head of JSOC, so a pretty big deal.

          • #134933
            GreenTip
            Participant

              Hope we got him and wiki has to be updated!!!!! Sure they will say on the news that he was some great guy who help poor blind kids and old ladies.

            • #134939
              D Close
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              • #134984
                SeanT
                Keymaster

                  confirmed killed
                  the world is better by just a little
                  deputy commander of Shia militia ( PMF) in Iraq also possibly killed in this strike also

                  • This reply was modified 3 months ago by SeanT.
                • #134985
                  SeanT
                  Keymaster

                    Also been hearing about a lot of US air activity around Kirkuk, not sure if related to Hashd al-Shaabi or the ISIS cells at the KRG-Iraq borderlands.

                    follow @spy_stations on twitter for much aircraft movement posts. Also @IntelCrab is an OSINT aggregator.

                  • #134997
                    Max
                    Keymaster

                      This was masterful. Love it. Embassy attacked, immediately reinforced. Then, orchestrator immediately killed, with no collatoral damage. What a messagew.

                    • #135007
                      DiznNC
                      Participant

                        Fuckin’ A, this has been a LONG time comin’. This goes back to MY days, when that pussy-in-chief Carter shoulda sent me into Iran and freed the hostages. Why the fuck we went into Iraq and Afghan and left Iran alone is beyond me. If they want to finally settle this, I say bring it on, motherfuckers. Death to Iran. Right back at ya.

                        As to this cum-bubble, may he burn in hell for eternity.

                        Funny, that douche-nozzle Geraldo was spewing on FOX about how these guys have been like little bees stinging us, but now we’ve poked the hive and it will only get worse. Well, home slice, I say if the bees are bothering you, burn down the whole fucking hive.

                      • #135026
                        Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                        Moderator

                          …so a pretty big deal.

                          This was masterful. Love it. Embassy attacked, immediately reinforced. Then, orchestrator immediately killed, with no collatoral damage. What a messagew.

                          …this has been a LONG time comin’.

                          As a Nation we have been pretending and ignoring the crimes against us by the Iranian leadership for far too long!

                          Because of our inaction; particularly the last 20 years, though the problem has existed since late 70’s as Diz notes.

                          I would be shocked if Iranian leadership doesn’t escalate further!

                          Surgically eliminating Iranian leadership in response to each escalation is an excellent strategy! Either they will stand down or soon their leadership will be gone, leaving an opportunity for Iranian citizens to fix their own Nation.

                          The targeting of Leadership responsible for making these decisions and directing these polices is far more effective than killing those carrying out such attacks.

                          It’s far too easy for such Leadership to ignore consequences when they feel safe from retaliation, take the fight to the decision makers will change not only current, but future behavior.

                          Something for all to learn! ;-)

                        • #135028
                          veritas556
                          Participant

                            So @Joe, what you’re saying is there is a strategic corollary to be learned here? ;)

                          • #135096
                            JustARandomGuy
                            Participant

                              You know it’s a good day when the “blue checkmarks” on Twitter are whining. B-)

                            • #135103
                              hellokitty
                              Participant

                                Problem solved. Problem staying solved.

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                              • #135116
                                rampantraptor
                                Participant

                                  Seems like Trump is actually playing it smart and making it clear that he doesn’t want this to escalate further.

                                  Still not sure he really understands the distinction between someone like Sulemani and somebody like al-Baghdadi.

                                  That being said Sulemani was pretty damn important so I see the Iranians feeling compelled to so something (asymmetric) to avoid looking like total bitches against the Americans. There are Hashd all over Iraq that could strike US bases there, plus with NE Syria being chopped up into different areas of influence now US troops are especially vulnerable, there were already reports of a standoff between Russians and Americans in Tel Tamer like two weeks ago.

                                  John Bolton must be feeling so left out right now ijs.

                                • #135121
                                  Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                  Moderator

                                    That being said Sulemani was pretty damn important so I see the Iranians feeling compelled to so something (asymmetric) to avoid looking like total bitches against the Americans

                                    Yea, but that would apply to almost anything we did.

                                    My next step would be the elimination of Hassan Rouhani current President of Iran if they choose escalation.

                                    Admittedly I doubt we will be so bold! ;-)

                                    My next and final target would be the Grand Ayatollah Sayyid Ali Khamenei for a swift end to this nonsense.

                                    Again probably too bold, but I can dream! :yes:

                                    The good news is there are plenty of valid targets between the various Generals and the Grand Ayatollah, who is also the the Commander of the Armed Forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran. Therefore a valid military target.

                                    It’s way past time to stop playing by others bullshit rules! B-)

                                    Take out enough of their leaders and the Irainian people can handle the rest.

                                  • #135122
                                    veritas556
                                    Participant

                                      @joe

                                      Take out enough of their leaders and the Irainian people can handle the rest.

                                      This is the sort of strategic thinking that wins “wars” before they have to happen.

                                    • #135132
                                      rampantraptor
                                      Participant

                                        I wouldn’t directly attack them because that fuels nationalist sentiment, they do proxy warfare, we can do it too.

                                        Offhand I can think of at least three active insurgent groups in Iran atm.

                                        Kurdish ones are probably the easiest bet, there’s Komala, KDP-I, and PJAK. PJAK was listed as an FTO by the Obama administration but the US has worked with KCK-affiliated elements in Syria with good effect, though whether KCK would want to play ball in Rojhelate Kurdistane and risk getting shafted like Rojava is another question.

                                        I know the Balochis have historically given the Pakistanis trouble, don’t know much about any current Balochi activity in Iran.

                                        Mujahedin-e-Khalq has a large presence internationally but they’re a creepy as fuck cult honestly.

                                        I think there are a couple of other non-ethnic Iranian socialist parties that went insurgent once the mullahs sold out the 1979 revolution, can’t name any offhand though.

                                      • #135158
                                        hellokitty
                                        Participant

                                          This is excellent tactics. Sure, Iran will hit back. BUT they ALREADY were hitting anyway so why be a timid bitch. Controlled and specific targeting is the key. Not bombing an empty training camp to send message, like Clinton. Specifically targeting leaders especially unpopular leaders that the opposition hate. Escalate upward in rank everytime they do something. At some point, they will stop. Iran leaders are thugs just like Iraq they just pray more fervent. But they still be south side gangstas. They like their big house and hi living too much.
                                          And if you REALLY want to fuck them over. Scratch a refinery each time they fuck with us. At some point they will stop or go bankrupt. Not all at once. One at a time. However targeting oil infrastructure will have a ripple effect and cause oil prices to rise which helps Russia. And causes gas prices to climb. So it is more global strategy.

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                                        • #135177
                                          Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                          Moderator

                                            I wouldn’t directly attack them because that fuels nationalist sentiment, they do proxy warfare, we can do it too.

                                            They use proxies because they weak, we’ve pretended it wasn’t them when proxies attacked, and can’t sustain a stand up fight.

                                            We are strong and can handle a stand up fight, but by making high level leadership pay the price for “their actions” we will not need to do a stand up fight!

                                            This action will save more American and Iranian lives.

                                            Lastly our short attention span and political election cycles can not sustain the long term commitment required for proxies to have desired effect.

                                            Scratch a refinery each time they fuck with us.

                                            That makes it about oil, we need to make it about leaders actions!

                                          • #135179
                                            Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                            Moderator

                                              Another important consideration…

                                              Why are typical Politicians; particularly globalist ones, against targeting leadership?

                                              Because it shifts threat from boots on the ground forces to those really responsible, the leaders!

                                              Typical Politicians don’t want to take actions that get themselves killed. They have no problem with troops paying the price for “their actions!”

                                              Hold Iran’s leaders accountable and this will end far quicker than any other method.

                                            • #135181
                                              DiznNC
                                              Participant

                                                Hotel Kilo’s got it goin’ on. These assholes are gonna hate on us no matter what we do. Why not fuck up their balli-wick? Time for all this diplo-shit to go bye-bye. The only thing they understand is force- raw, naked power. Anything else is just viewed as a weakness. Carter was a fucking joke in my time. Which has led to all this bullshit.

                                                Why is some 3d world fucked up country able to rub our nose in their shit? It doesn’t make any sense to me. We could fly in there in one day and level the place. Who could stop us? Yet we put up with all this crap. What’s the point of having all these armed forces if you don’t have the will to use it? They laugh at us because we put up with their shit. You can be assured if the sit was reversed, they’d burn us to the ground.

                                                Quit playing nation-builder and trying to fight assholes through proxies. Just go in, kick their ass, and give anyone who objects the finger. Too easy.

                                              • #135185
                                                Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                Moderator

                                                  The only thing they understand is force- raw, naked power.

                                                  We do not need to spend American lives in this!

                                                  Kill the decision makers, announce that we are not against The nation of Iran or the Iranian people.

                                                  We are against the Iranian Leaders who direct attacks on us.

                                                  Killing those responsible for these attacks mean killing the leaders not some Shiite Militia member!

                                                • #135187
                                                  DiznNC
                                                  Participant

                                                    I would beg to differ. These assholes, and many more like them, are fighting asymmetric warfare against us, on a global scale. Showing weakness has led to further boldness on their part. While I agree with you, in that decapitating the leadership is a good strategy, you can’t solve everything with just cruise missiles or drones. At some point it always takes boots on the ground to close the deal. Just because our strategy on that has been flawed, doesn’t mean we can’t get it right.

                                                    But in theory, I agree that taking out the leadership sends a clear message to these assholes. But the rank and file, although serious mis-led, will still line up to kill the infidel, so what are you gonna do. It’s not like I hate Iranians, or Russians, or Chinese; it’s that their governments are my sworn enemies. So if their troops want to pick up a rifle and shoot at me, I will pick up mine and kill them first. Nothing personal chum.

                                                  • #135194
                                                    Joe (G.W.N.S.)
                                                    Moderator

                                                      Showing weakness has led to further boldness on their part.

                                                      Killing this prick Salami ass wipe wasn’t weakness!

                                                      Ultimately killing Grand Ayatollah Sayyid Ali Khamenei isn’t a sign of weakness in my book!

                                                      At some point it always takes boots on the ground to close the deal.

                                                      So we can fuck around in Iran like Iraq and Afghanistan?

                                                      Lastly our short attention span and political election cycles can not sustain the long term commitment required…

                                                      This applies to this as well.

                                                      No policy survives the election cycle!

                                                      If it isn’t completely accomplished within 4 to 8 years it will become a complete shitshow!

                                                      At best we have a little over 4 years before Trump is gone and it’s back to business as usual. Unless SHTF happens back home.

                                                    • #135262
                                                      D Close
                                                      Moderator

                                                        As a result of rising tension with Iran, AMRRON has increased its communication readiness condition to AMCON-4. Due to Iranian cyber capability there is a potential threat to infrastructure. There are no known immediate threats at this time.

                                                        Operators were advised to ready comm gear and power supplies.

                                                        General recommendations include: Revise and update emergency meet-up plans with friends and family. Fully fuel all vehicles. Be prepared for disruptions of several days that might impact power, water or food. Have cash on hand to cover expenses as required.

                                                        AmCON – AmRRON Communications Condition Level

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