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    • #124211
      Mike Q
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        https://www.foxnews.com/us/guns-seized-neo-nazi-leader-washington-state

        If you read the article this guy was supposedly part of a hate group. They seized his firearms but did not bring charges against him. They paint a picture of a neo nazi, and maybe he is. Some videos exist of hate chanting. but read an except below from the article.

        “Cole had reportedly participated in firearms training and recruiting at “hate camps,” where members conducted military exercises wearing skull masks to conceal their faces.”

        Thoughts?

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      • #124214
        Max
        Keymaster

          He hasn’t trained at MVT! Although Kitty was wearing a skull mask on CLC. But I didn’t see him doing any chanting. :yahoo:

          On a more serious note, it’s entirely possible this was a hate-nugget as described. Or it’s more psyop. Any mention of schools for training or is it ‘back-40’ DERP SUT training? In my experience, the real nuggets don’t come to a reputable school like MVT for training.

        • #124220
          hellokitty
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            The only chanting I was doing was “get me off this mountain”

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          • #124221
            wheelsee
            Participant

              Another point is keeping things, including conversations, professional at all times.

              Pops always told me, are you ok with it (my comments) being posted in the paper?

            • #124264
              Anonymous
              Inactive

                Heard about it too, sounds like the guy is a legit shithead. More curious as to what specifically triggered the ERPO, was it simply his membership in Atomwaffen or was he recorded making specific threats?

                Atomwaffen has been ravaged lately, they’ve been compromised by antifascist intelligence efforts followed by FBI attention, then there was been a split because it was leaked that the leadership follows Nazi occultism. (There’s a long and weird history of Nazis and satanism, paganism, etc.)

                As much as I hate us gun owners being compared to Natzis there are implications for us, considering those same progressive desires to label all of us as extremists so we should follow this to see if there’s any precedent being set here.

              • #124269
                Robert Henry
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                  Meanwhile in Chicago… how many are actually killed in a weekend?

                  And that great city is home to those nice folks in the NOI who have accepted millions from Khadaffi back in the day. And their leadership from the “honorable” (if banging your young secretary that’s not your wife and getting her pregnant gets you that title) Elijah Muhamed to Farrakhan also “stockpile weapons” and go on and out about killing “sun devils” as well as Hispanics, Asians. And let’s not forget Farrakhan’s clear hatred for the jews which is about the only peeps you hear about them every so often in the national news.

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                • #124339
                  AntMan
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                    The lack of information is disappointing. It leaves it open to the interpretation of the liberal DA of Seattle wanting to prove a point and going after the evil facists.

                    I would think if this guy was a much of a threat, they would at least have something along the lines of making terroristic threats. Or all of their evidence is based on the antifacist intelligence and they either don’t want them compromised or don’t feel it would be admissible.

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                  • #124394
                    Roadkill
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                      The problem of unconstitutional red flag laws are they are arbitrary. Everyone who attends MVT is a threat. All NRA members are threats, the list goes on. Police who enforce these laws are wrong. Unless there has been a law broken and it has been adjudicated even complete assholes have the right to keep and bear arms. All here know this, I just have a hard time seeing where our country is going.

                    • #124427
                      Robert Henry
                      Participant

                        The problem of unconstitutional red flag laws are they are arbitrary. Everyone who attends MVT is a threat. All NRA members are threats, the list goes on. Police who enforce these laws are wrong. Unless there has been a law broken and it has been adjudicated even complete assholes have the right to keep and bear arms. All here know this, I just have a hard time seeing where our country is going.

                        This is the same with the media’s resurrection of the “white supremacist” now “white nationalist” BS, it drives the “hate” argument but of course doesn’t apply to any race except white.

                        Today it’s some 88 that hasn’t really done anything but talked stupid online. Tomorrow it’s someone who prayed for a woman outside an abortion clinic (that’s happened already also). Not long it’s most gun owners, conservatives, etc. We know how easy it is to get stupid people behind a single slogan like “Hope and change”. And while the muslims in Amerika are semi protected religious class now, the secular humanists won’t let that stand forever either- their treatment of woman, throwing gays off buildings and radical beliefs would never stand long term with secular humanists. To them the Gubmint is god and they will accept no others.

                        White male conservative gun owner’s days in Amerika are numbered, the socialists have made that clear. They will eat around the edges first (88’s, etc.) but they will get around to everyone over time while slowly demonizing the others in the process.

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                      • #124458
                        fabio
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                          I’ve seen a documentary regarding a different white supremacy group. The leader did quite a bit of research and found a town for all the members to live. They purchased homes/property withing the same voting district and gained measurable influence.

                          Of course neighbors hated them and routinely called police on them for “walking down the street with guns.” I don’t know the long-term outcome of that small Klan.

                        • #124642
                          Average Joe
                          Participant

                            Mr. Robert Henry, what can I say but well said.

                            As soon as we start using the same standard as the old Soviet Union for application and protection of God given Constitutionally recognized and protected rights they cease to exist. In essence if you thought differently than those in power you were considered mentally unstable and so you had no rights.

                            While not knowing the particulars of the case but given the current political environment it is not a stretch to see this citizen of these United States as a somewhat frustrated, ill-reasoned, historically challenged, yet a targeted and vulnerable individual. Being a self proclaimed “nazi”, assuming he actually knows who and what they were, being White, and most likely a man of limited financial means he makes an easy target for a hyper sensitive overbearing government which is looking for this type of citizen to ‘make a statement.”

                            As has been pointed out, the real question is how long until they work down the list to someone else who, in a heated exchange or out of frustration, makes an unwise comment and will then find a SWAT team, complete with helicopters, launching an assault on their house or their neighbors house. Waco or Ruby Ridge ringing any bells here?

                            In the end, if mere exercising of the First Amendment, freedom of association and political speech, and/or exercising the Second Amendment, owning and practicing with a firearm, are now grounds to have any of them revoked we are in much deeper doo-doo than most realize.

                            I would humbly suggest we may want to consider the old idea that when anyone’s rights are denied all of us are threatened.

                            Y’all have a nice day.

                          • #124819
                            Anonymous
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                              I’ve seen a documentary regarding a different white supremacy group. The leader did quite a bit of research and found a town for all the members to live. They purchased homes/property withing the same voting district and gained measurable influence.

                              Of course neighbors hated them and routinely called police on them for “walking down the street with guns.” I don’t know the long-term outcome of that small Klan.

                              Probably referring to this group:

                              https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-25646954

                              There’s a documentary about this called Welcome to Leith, yeah, they were pretty shitty people too lol.

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