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    • #116419
      wheelsee
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      • #116422
        Anonymous
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          :good:

        • #116588
          Sitting Duck
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            Who will protect us from the police?

            If the Union head hadn’t threatened the 1st amendment rights of “Dirtbags” these cops would be still on the job.

            Good chance they will never serve a day or loose a dime.

          • #116590
            Abacus
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              The powers that be are looking through 14,000 cases these guys were linked to! It probably really sucks to be a Houston cop who did not screw this pooch right now.

            • #116608
              TC
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                Good! Cops are human, so some are real dirtbags. I know someone who was LEO. He had to take a psych evaluation to join the force. Completely flunked it. But being a sociopath (which is why he failed it) he charmed the female evaluator into changing his grade to top score, and so he got in. Took a decade for him to get fired for corruption, for stealing drugs from the evidence room, for screwing the crack ho’s he’d bust, and worse. His partner later went to jail for child p0rn0graphy. They’d cover for each other, treat people extra rough for the fun of it (paralyzed one guy from the neck down as a result) and so on. That’s what happens when wolves become sheepdogs. It’s a disgrace. Glad some are getting busted.

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                Lloyd
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                • #129812
                  wheelsee
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                    This is just one of the many reasons why initial comments and observations are asinine. As thinkers, as professionals, prudence demands we wait for more information. It also demands that we list (acknowledge) the potential short-comings of our observations (as Joe has frequently requested we do).

                  • #129813
                    wheelsee
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                      I also noticed that the neighbor is being charged federally. In the state of TX, anyone associated with a crime resulting in the death of another (get-away driver not even present inside the bank) can be charged for that death, I’m wondering why the neighbor isn’t being charged by the state (or the others for that matter).

                    • #129815
                      hellokitty
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                        Wow. Bunch of cop haters. Disgusting.
                        There are some MVT alumni who are cops who I would take as a battle buddy in a heart beat. You guys? Nope.

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                      • #129942
                        First Sergeant
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                          Wow. Bunch of cop haters. Disgusting.
                          There are some MVT alumni who are cops who I would take as a battle buddy in a heart beat. You guys? Nope.

                          What are you talking about?

                          FILO
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                        • #129949
                          hellokitty
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                            Wow. Bunch of cop haters. Disgusting.
                            There are some MVT alumni who are cops who I would take as a battle buddy in a heart beat. You guys? Nope.

                            What are you talking about?

                            I took some of the comments the wrong way. If I was mistaken, my apologies.

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                          • #129998
                            Max
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                              @hellokitty – it does not good to be a ‘true believer’ on either side of this game. Being ‘Fox News thin blue line’ all the way is just as useless as being on the extreme left. I am more than aware that we have some great guys as MVT alumni who are or were cops. That does not excuse some of the examples pointed to in this thread.

                              Also, as I have pointed out many times, we have an existential problem coming as the country descends into socialism, gun confiscation etc. Just look at VA. It is not the politicians who enforce this, it is the LEOs, many who care not a whit about the Constitution and are motivated by job security and pensions. There are hard decisions ahead for many LEOs.

                              My decision point in VA regarding the evil or good of LEOs at any level is what they do in 2020. Are they socialist enforcers or are they true pesce officers who will resign or non-conform as whole departments?

                              Typed from a hotel gym in Maine.

                            • #130040
                              Lloyd
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                                Speaking for myself, I’m not “anti cop” by any means. I’ve known a bunch of cops and former cops, and from what I can see they’re more or less a cross-section of the community at large. That means that there are a few who are AWESOME, a few who are BAD, and the vast majority somewhere in the middle of that “bell curve” who are mostly just doing the job without a whole lot of deep thinking involved.

                                Most have never been tested beyond just “doing the job”, so as Max mentions above, it remains to be seen what they will choose when it comes time to pick between “uphold and defend the Constitution” vs “follow orders, and collect the paycheck”.

                                ….I have been seeing this same discussion for 25 years, starting as the AWB of ’94 for working its way through Congress.

                              • #130042
                                Lloyd
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                                  I’ll add that whole “thin blue line” mentality is dangerous, in my opinion, since it promotes an “us vs them” mentality. To me it seems like GOOD cops would (or at least should) want to hammer truly BAD cops (like these Houston guys appear to be at this point).

                                  The whole “authority” thing comes with a “responsibility” thing attached to it… or at least it SHOULD.

                                • #130063
                                  BILLY
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                                    I agree with Max’s point, all LEOs will get a chance soon to show their true north and at that point we can all choose who we want on our teams. Every career field will have dirtbags present in the ranks. Soliders swear an oath too but we’ve all seen that that in itself doesn’t guarantee that they will never commit a crime. Cops in essence are just a cross section of America, some believe in the 2nd amendment, some are scared of the gun they’re required to carry. Most cops make a little bit less than a McDonald’s manager so they’re typically either motivated by a desire to help or a desire to be in control of others. I was at Elgin AFB when Katrina hit and many cops were there illegally seizing firearms. I personally know one who was involved in a fatal shooting of a citizen not willing to do so. But i also know one that said he was ordered to take firearms but disobeyed and allowed any legally owned firearms to stay with their owner. Cops are just people, if you think they should all be pro 2nd amendment then you need to step back and realize that we’re the minority in this world and that most people are leanings away from us being allowed to exercise our freedoms. I think the constitution is quite clear but I’m biased by my beliefs. Living inland away from the crazies on the coast is the best way to extend the time you have with your firearms. Next best option, rely on the constitutional power granted to sheriffs and ensure that you have one that believes in your second amendment rights. But bottom line, don’t be surprised when cops commit crimes, don’t be caught off guard when soldiers commit war crimes, and don’t pretend to be offended when upstanding citizens cheat on their spouses. People are heavily flawed and broken. And yes good cops HATE bad cops because they cause conversations like these

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                                    wheelsee
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