The Fear of Training Failure / The MVT Training Progression

September 11, 2015
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I was just chatting about this topic and it seems worth a blog post. I was just informed that some people are actually put off from attending an MVT class because of fear of failure, for whatever perceived reason that might be: lack of PT, lack of skills, etc. I have heard anecdotes of some just not wanting to show up for training, due to fear of the unknown,  even though encouraged to do so by their training buddy.

Now, it is true that at MVT we do not conduct run of the mill ‘tacticool’ training. No, in fact we conduct real combat training. We do this because we are doing our best to give you the tools and skills you need to set you up with a best chance of survival in these uncertain times.

The training is conducted in a ‘crawl – walk – run’ progression with full safety measures. It is designed for the civilian and will teach you not only the ‘how’ but also the ‘why’ to allow you to better understand what you are learning. You will not be degraded or humiliated. Even the individual lanes that students go through can / will be amended by MVT cadre to tailor them to the skill set and physical abilities of the students. We have had all sorts of shapes and sizes through the Combat Team Tactics and Combat Patrol Classes. Aged up to around 70 years old, down to around 14.

It is true that one of the big takeaways from students is the need for more PT. However, this is true of anyone conducting these classes, because whatever your level, you will work at that level and wish you were in better shape. That’s just the way it is. There is a certain amount of courage and intestinal fortitude required to show up for these classes. I’m not telling you that it will be easy, but I am telling you that you will DO IT, and we will help you to do so. I am constantly in awe of the heart and team work shown by students when they are going through these classes, and that gives me hope for their chances, and thus their families chances, in a survival situation.

Yes, the classes are the real deal: we have had active duty and retired military combat arms pass through the classes, including active and retired Special Forces. This, however, does not mean the classes are TOO HARD for average Joe. They are designed for average Joe, for him and her to succeed, and learn.  Really, if you haven’t been to MVT, you won’t know how awesome these classes actually are! I’m very proud of where we are with this training right now.


Now, it would be easy to run a series of large volume low skills square range tacticool pew pew classes. But that would not help us with the mission of “Keeping Good Folks Alive.” So instead we have well designed classes with clear objectives and standards. That does mean that we have a funnel effect onto our more advanced classes. However, I am not convinced that many out there, who have not yet been the an MVT class, fully appreciate what is available with the Combat Team Tactics Class:

CTT is a 3 day class which has the option of being a 4 day class if you add Rifle Skills on the front end. Rifle Skills is a primer class that takes place on the square range. If you add this to a 4 day class, then you will have 2 days on the square range before moving to the tactical ranges for the final 2 days of training. This gives you an excellent training progression and you will learn a lot in this 4 day class.

The current MVT class training progression looks like this:




Combat Team Tactics (CTT), particularly with the Rifle Skills portion included, has taken on the role of the MVT ‘basic training’ class,which will give you access to the other classes.

Combat Patrol is an excellent grounding in patrolling and recce/raid/ambush. Combat Patrol can be combined with CTT to create a 6 (7) day class.

Citizen Close Combat (C3) is an excellent grounding in urban combat. When is it goes bump in the night and it is just you and your wife at home…..? You are now a buddy team, clearing the house! You learned that at the C3 class!


If you really want to aim for a standard, we have the MVT Rifleman Challenge:


  1. ChocolateMilk says:

    My wife got me CONTACT this week in anticipation for training. I would be there now if I had the time off from work. I’ve had my friends (combat vets) review your curriculum, and they say it’s good to go and they will join me. Keep up the no bullshit approach to training and not “tacticool” crap.

  2. Mike H says:

    I highly recommend the MVT training classes. I’ll be heading back in December for CTT and if ChocolateMilk or another wanna partner up with myself…well I’ll be there(can’t get any locals to attend). I here West Virginia is quite nice that time of year….

  3. ChocolateMilk says:

    I’m out of time off for the year. I would like to get in on the first CTT in WV next year.

  4. The Hobbit says:

    Just waiting on The class schedule for 2016 to come up. Hoping to make the drive in march or april

  5. Mike aka Rommel says:

    Failure. What does failure mean to me? It’s a wake up call. Everyone wants to succeed. Everyone wants a passing grade. We want to do something here that not everyone has an inclination for and we want to do that something well. At MTV, we are given the opportunity to train and put in to action what we aspire to be, an accomplished operator. At least at the level of a protector of ones family. Having failed at number of exercises and I refuse to say how many, I understood I had a choice. I could kick the can and blame everyone but me or I could accept the fact that it was up to me to make the difference. Whether it is pt that has you concerned, manipulation skills or accurately placing shots on target, you have to take the chance. You have to find your higest level of your incompetence and push past it. I am thankful Max has provided the opportunity to train. He is providing us with the knowledge and ability to confront a situation in a positive fashion so that just maybe the good guys have a chance to live.

  6. Themagicbusguy says:

    No one likes to look “stupid” in front of their peers. But here I was, a middle aged, non military guy with a list of injuries as long as your arm, running my gun at Max’s with guys both older and younger than me, and here’s the catch- we all made mistakes, and no one criticized anyone else. Remember why you train. This is the place to make mistakes, not in the Real World, where a malfunction or fail costs you a family member. I got nothing but encouragement from my classmates and the instructors, and came away more capable and confident than when I arrived. Now is the time to get training and expose your deficiencies- not after the world goes pear shaped. I no longer fear malfunctions, emergency reloads, or looking bad in front of my peers.
    Thanks Max and the guys who helped me get to this place- if you want peace of mind, and the confidence to win the fight, get trained and get fit, and then GET YOU SOME!
    Magicbusguy OUT!